Armchair GM 2018-2019
- Thread starter CarltonTheBear
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"Calvin, there's a good chance every single one of your outlet passes will be received by one of Matthews, Nylander, Tavares, or Marner. Sign here please."
"Calvin, there's a good chance every single one of your outlet passes will be received by one of Matthews, Nylander, Tavares, or Marner. Sign here please."
bustaheims
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Frank E said:
He'd be a solid upgrade to the Leafs #4, and a significant upgrade to the 3rd pairing. If the team is looking for him to fill in on the top pair, he wouldn't offer much more than what they already have.
Frank E said:
Analytics folks like him. He's not a top pairing defenceman or anything but he's a good skating puck mover who should be a good #4 type guy. I think he's sorta Dermott-y if you want a Leafs comparable.
As long as he isn't grossly overpaid he's pretty much the exact type of player we need to be filling our defence corps with. Projection models have him at about $2.5mil-3.5mil on a deal with 3+ years.
bustaheims said:
I mean if he's replacing Hainsey on the top pair that'd be a pretty significant upgrade.
bustaheims
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CarltonTheBear said:
Except that he's a LHD, so, that's not happening. Realistically, with Babcock's preferences, we're looking at him for the 3rd pairing.
bustaheims said:
The fact that the Leafs are chasing him means one of two things:
1) They're planning on trading Gardiner.
2) They're planning on moving a lefty (probably Rielly) over to the right side. They're not going to scratch Dermott.
Frank E said:
I do think that it's more likely that it means option 2, but option 1 wouldn't completely surprise me. We know Dubas has spoken to Gardiner's agent already about a new deal. If he doesn't get the sense that Gardiner wants to return or if the price will be too high, I think Dubas shops him this summer. And considering the year that he's coming off of (like I said earlier today, he was one of the highest scoring defencemen at 5-on-5), his value is likely the highest it will ever be.
mr grieves
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CarltonTheBear said:
I wonder if Dubas and the likely increasing importance of the analytics department will make #2 more or less likely.
princedpw said:
I've speculated about a trade with New Jersey for Damon Severson before. Andy Greene isn't getting any younger and they just lost John Moore to Boston too, so their left side is pretty weak right now. Severson is a bit of a downgrade for us but he's a young righty who is signed to a very reasonable contract.
That'd give us something like:
Rielly-Severson
de Haan-Zaitsev
Dermott-Hainsey
Frank E said:
Last season? No. He pretty much exclusively played with Hainsey who was on the right side. He saw very rare spot duty with Dermott and Gardiner from time to time when the Leafs needed a goal but the minutes there were very slim.
Back in the Matt Hunwick days though Rielly did play the right side. His numbers took a bit of a hit from what he was used to but it's difficult to say if that's because he played on a different side or because he played with Matt Hunwick.
mr grieves
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princedpw said:
What teams think they're close enough -- or are sufficiently desperate to make the playoffs -- that they'd be in on a pending UFA? I'd suspect the Leafs want to get better, and swapping Gardiner for de Haan plus futures doesn't really do that.