Asking price for Tyler Bozak appears to be a second round pick

[wnc096]

Could he be more valuable at the Trade Deadline perhaps?  A 2nd rounder is good but a late first or 2nd round + is better and I wonder if he can fetch that at the trade deadline when there is more urgency to win by teams who are in contention.

Nobody is going to trade much for a guy 2nd off the ice at practice who isn't BFF's with local media.  Got to trade him now before it gets worse.

Exactly....especially if they trade Kessel.  Then you'll see what kind of numbers Bozak is actually capable without his old buddy's coattails to ride on.  Move him now

 

[Kin]

Exactly....especially if they trade Kessel.  Then you'll see what kind of numbers Bozak is actually capable without his old buddy's coattails to ride on.  Move him now

I don't think other teams are ignorant of who Bozak's been playing with and I think they're capable of coming to roughly the same conclusion.

 

[wnc096]

Exactly....especially if they trade Kessel.  Then you'll see what kind of numbers Bozak is actually capable without his old buddy's coattails to ride on.  Move him now

I'm just saying....his stock ain't going up between now and the trade deadline

I don't think other teams are ignorant of who Bozak's been playing with and I think they're capable of coming to roughly the same conclusion.

 

[Kin]

I'm just saying....his stock ain't going up between now and the trade deadline

I don't necessarily agree. If he surprises even a little and has a decent-ish year removed from Kessel and he has less money owed to him(next year is the most expensive year of his deal in real dollars) I think he could see his stock rise, especially with the pressures that inflate value at the deadline.

 

[KW Sluggo]

Could he be more valuable at the Trade Deadline perhaps?  A 2nd rounder is good but a late first or 2nd round + is better and I wonder if he can fetch that at the trade deadline when there is more urgency to win by teams who are in contention.

Nobody is going to trade much for a guy 2nd off the ice at practice who isn't BFF's with local media.  Got to trade him now before it gets worse.

Forget that, Leafs have no intention of trading anyone off this lamentable roster.

 

[rdowdall]

Could he be more valuable at the Trade Deadline perhaps?  A 2nd rounder is good but a late first or 2nd round + is better and I wonder if he can fetch that at the trade deadline when there is more urgency to win by teams who are in contention.

Nobody is going to trade much for a guy 2nd off the ice at practice who isn't BFF's with local media.  Got to trade him now before it gets worse.

Forget that, Leafs have no intention of trading anyone off this lamentable roster.

I'm not that is the case.  I think they maybe keep Phanuef because Babcock thinks he can work with him.  I don't think Phanuef alone will impact the position of this team in the standings next year.  I am pretty sure that Bozak, Kessel, and Lupul will be moved when the Leafs feel they have a deal that makes sense. 

Rick Nash didn't get traded when people thought he was going to be traded either.  The Leafs might be looking at it from a standpoint of "Lets wait to free agency hits, maybe a team is left without a dance partner, or maybe a team will need to dump some salary" and that's when the Leafs are going to make their move.

 

[wnc096]

"The market for Tyler Bozak, Kessel?s centre of choice, was non-existent. The Leafs did not receive a single phone call inquiring about Bozak?s availability."-Steve Simmons

Not a single inquiry?  Yikes.  Does not bode well...hopefully that changes. 

 

[CarltonTheBear]

"The market for Tyler Bozak, Kessel?s centre of choice, was non-existent. The Leafs did not receive a single phone call inquiring about Bozak?s availability."-Steve Simmons

Not a single inquiry?  Yikes.  Does not bode well...hopefully that changes. 

I wouldn't exactly be all that surprised if this was true, but I really wonder where Simmons got this information from. In the past we (and most teams) would have some old-school guys in the front office that would have connections to the media and the information would typically get leaked through those channels. But this group? I highly doubt Kyle Dubas has Simmons on speed dial. Hunter could be described as an old-school type maybe just in the sense that he's been in the game for a very long time, but I can't see him spilling to Simmons in his very first NHL opportunity. He'd also be severely weakening the Leafs position here in trades. Shanny ain't talking. Cam Charron? The guy from Extra Skater? Some intern with great listening skills? Who?

 

[rdowdall]

"The market for Tyler Bozak, Kessel?s centre of choice, was non-existent. The Leafs did not receive a single phone call inquiring about Bozak?s availability."-Steve Simmons

Not a single inquiry?  Yikes.  Does not bode well...hopefully that changes. 

I wouldn't exactly be all that surprised if this was true, but I really wonder where Simmons got this information from. In the past we (and most teams) would have some old-school guys in the front office that would have connections to the media and the information would typically get leaked through those channels. But this group? I highly doubt Kyle Dubas has Simmons on speed dial. Hunter could be described as an old-school type maybe just in the sense that he's been in the game for a very long time, but I can't see him spilling to Simmons in his very first NHL opportunity. He'd also be severely weakening the Leafs position here in trades. Shanny ain't talking. Cam Charron? The guy from Extra Skater? Some intern with great listening skills? Who?

They didn't receive a phone call inquiring about his availability because they know he's available.  Bozak strikes me as an after free agency deal.  His ilk can be picked up in free agency.  Some team that is left without a dance partner may call the Leafs then.  Bozak is a known quantity and teams know he is there.  They'll call the Leafs when they need to.

 

[Kin]

I wouldn't exactly be all that surprised if this was true, but I really wonder where Simmons got this information from. In the past we (and most teams) would have some old-school guys in the front office that would have connections to the media and the information would typically get leaked through those channels. But this group? I highly doubt Kyle Dubas has Simmons on speed dial. Hunter could be described as an old-school type maybe just in the sense that he's been in the game for a very long time, but I can't see him spilling to Simmons in his very first NHL opportunity. He'd also be severely weakening the Leafs position here in trades. Shanny ain't talking. Cam Charron? The guy from Extra Skater? Some intern with great listening skills? Who?

I'm guessing it's probably a little less Deep Throat-esque than that. Simmons is around the team, he'll ask some guys some questions and they're not exactly guarding state secrets.

 

[Bullfrog]

"The market for Tyler Bozak, Kessel?s centre of choice, was non-existent. The Leafs did not receive a single phone call inquiring about Bozak?s availability."-Steve Simmons

Not a single inquiry?  Yikes.  Does not bode well...hopefully that changes.

Kessel's centre of choice?

Simmons's ability to come across as a d-bag in everything he says is quite remarkable.

 

[Zee]

How does Simmons know they didn't receive a single phone call?  Did someone on the Leafs tell him or did he phone the other 29 teams and ask them?

 

[Leaflifer]

How does Simmons know they didn't receive a single phone call?  Did someone on the Leafs tell him or did he phone the other 29 teams and ask them?

I can't say for what levels of journalism a guy like Simmons would stoop. Would he print that with no source?

I really don't know. I don't read his stuff. Is there a precedent for him being dishonest? If so, everything he writes should filed under "G".

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

How does Simmons know they didn't receive a single phone call?  Did someone on the Leafs tell him or did he phone the other 29 teams and ask them?

I can't say for what levels of journalism a guy like Simmons would stoop. Would he print that with no source?

I really don't know. I don't read his stuff. Is there a precedent for him being dishonest? If so, everything he writes should filed under "G".

The sources are always anonymous so we could never know.

 

[caver]

It's just more negative crap from Simmons...one of the best things Burke did was call him out as a POS..

 

[Kin]

Why the rush to assume it's not true? It's not like he said anything particularly shocking or that the team would need to keep under wraps. Does anyone doubt that if there was serious interest in Bozak, Bozak would be gone?

 

[bustaheims]

Why the rush to assume it's not true? It's not like he said anything particularly shocking or that the team would need to keep under wraps. Does anyone doubt that if there was serious interest in Bozak, Bozak would be gone?

I don't doubt that there no serious offers for Bozak, but I have trouble believing the Leafs didn't get any calls about him at all, even if it was just from teams trying to get an idea of what the Leafs might be looking for to see if they might circle back on him after free agency gets going.

 

[Kin]

I don't doubt that there no serious offers for Bozak, but I have trouble believing the Leafs didn't get any calls about him at all, even if it was just from teams trying to get an idea of what the Leafs might be looking for to see if they might circle back on him after free agency gets going.

I really have no problem believing that interest in Bozak is just about zero right now. Not to mention that I don't think that the sort of call you're talking about really contradicts what Simmons said.

 

[caver]

I wouldn't expect much interest in Bozak..but very few people would have knowledge of every call the Leafs get...and I don't think Simmons gets into that inner circle. I just don't believe that is something he can speak to with certainty..yet he writes it that way.

 

[Frank E]

I don't doubt that there no serious offers for Bozak, but I have trouble believing the Leafs didn't get any calls about him at all, even if it was just from teams trying to get an idea of what the Leafs might be looking for to see if they might circle back on him after free agency gets going.

I really have no problem believing that interest in Bozak is just about zero right now. Not to mention that I don't think that the sort of call you're talking about really contradicts what Simmons said.

I think there'd be calls just to see if there are any add-on's that might make Bozak or Lupul interesting.

Anyone think it'd be worth it to send along a guy like Percy with Bozak for a 2nd round pick?