Blackhawks @ Leafs - Dec. 11th, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050

[Guilt Trip]

Holl needs to view the next few from on high, but if they decide Muzzin made head contact there's no way he'll be sitting for Biega ? which he probably wouldn't anyway.  I'm not a Holl hater but he's been abysmal.

Personally I like Holl, seems like a great guy, however business is business and Kyle needs to find him a new home.

I don't know what Dubas' love is for this guy. Only good thing is he is a RH defensemen other than that easily replaceable.

It's Keefe who keeps putting him in the lineup, not Dubas. And right now they're hurting on D..if Dermott was healthy, I think Holl would be out.

 

[azzurri63]

Holl needs to view the next few from on high, but if they decide Muzzin made head contact there's no way he'll be sitting for Biega ? which he probably wouldn't anyway.  I'm not a Holl hater but he's been abysmal.

Personally I like Holl, seems like a great guy, however business is business and Kyle needs to find him a new home.

I don't know what Dubas' love is for this guy. Only good thing is he is a RH defensemen other than that easily replaceable.

It's Keefe who keeps putting him in the lineup, not Dubas. And right now they're hurting on D..if Dermott was healthy, I think Holl would be out.

Well Keefe is kinda limited due to the injuries so understandable why he's playing. It's why he's still on the team is my beef and that falls on Kyle. Should never have protected him and exposed McCann, and traded for a defensemen to fill his spot if needed.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Holl needs to view the next few from on high, but if they decide Muzzin made head contact there's no way he'll be sitting for Biega ? which he probably wouldn't anyway.  I'm not a Holl hater but he's been abysmal.

Personally I like Holl, seems like a great guy, however business is business and Kyle needs to find him a new home.

I don't know what Dubas' love is for this guy. Only good thing is he is a RH defensemen other than that easily replaceable.

It's Keefe who keeps putting him in the lineup, not Dubas. And right now they're hurting on D..if Dermott was healthy, I think Holl would be out.

Well Keefe is kinda limited due to the injuries so understandable why he's playing. It's why he's still on the team is my beef and that falls on Kyle. Should never have protected him and exposed McCann, and traded for a defensemen to fill his spot if needed.

Based on his play last year and what D men were getting paid, protecting Holl was absolutely the right move. No crystal balls back then.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Holl needs to view the next few from on high, but if they decide Muzzin made head contact there's no way he'll be sitting for Biega ? which he probably wouldn't anyway.  I'm not a Holl hater but he's been abysmal.

Personally I like Holl, seems like a great guy, however business is business and Kyle needs to find him a new home.

I don't know what Dubas' love is for this guy. Only good thing is he is a RH defensemen other than that easily replaceable.

It's Keefe who keeps putting him in the lineup, not Dubas. And right now they're hurting on D..if Dermott was healthy, I think Holl would be out.

Well Keefe is kinda limited due to the injuries so understandable why he's playing. It's why he's still on the team is my beef and that falls on Kyle. Should never have protected him and exposed McCann, and traded for a defensemen to fill his spot if needed.

Based on his play last year and what D men were getting paid, protecting Holl was absolutely the right move. No crystal balls back then.

While ultimately, you are correct, there were some major red flags in Holl's play last year. What's strange about this year is he's struggling with or without Muzzin. Last season it only seemed to really show up when Muzzin was injured.

 

[rdowdall]

Holl needs to view the next few from on high, but if they decide Muzzin made head contact there's no way he'll be sitting for Biega ? which he probably wouldn't anyway.  I'm not a Holl hater but he's been abysmal.

Personally I like Holl, seems like a great guy, however business is business and Kyle needs to find him a new home.

I don't know what Dubas' love is for this guy. Only good thing is he is a RH defensemen other than that easily replaceable.

It's Keefe who keeps putting him in the lineup, not Dubas. And right now they're hurting on D..if Dermott was healthy, I think Holl would be out.

Well Keefe is kinda limited due to the injuries so understandable why he's playing. It's why he's still on the team is my beef and that falls on Kyle. Should never have protected him and exposed McCann, and traded for a defensemen to fill his spot if needed.

Based on his play last year and what D men were getting paid, protecting Holl was absolutely the right move. No crystal balls back then.

While ultimately, you are correct, there were some major red flags in Holl's play last year. What's strange about this year is he's struggling with or without Muzzin. Last season it only seemed to really show up when Muzzin was injured.

Probably because Muzzin is also struggling this year.

 

[Frank E]

Ever wonder why we never talk about Brodie...like ever?

 

[Guilt Trip]

Holl needs to view the next few from on high, but if they decide Muzzin made head contact there's no way he'll be sitting for Biega ? which he probably wouldn't anyway.  I'm not a Holl hater but he's been abysmal.

Personally I like Holl, seems like a great guy, however business is business and Kyle needs to find him a new home.

I don't know what Dubas' love is for this guy. Only good thing is he is a RH defensemen other than that easily replaceable.

It's Keefe who keeps putting him in the lineup, not Dubas. And right now they're hurting on D..if Dermott was healthy, I think Holl would be out.

Well Keefe is kinda limited due to the injuries so understandable why he's playing. It's why he's still on the team is my beef and that falls on Kyle. Should never have protected him and exposed McCann, and traded for a defensemen to fill his spot if needed.

Based on his play last year and what D men were getting paid, protecting Holl was absolutely the right move. No crystal balls back then.

While ultimately, you are correct, there were some major red flags in Holl's play last year. What's strange about this year is he's struggling with or without Muzzin. Last season it only seemed to really show up when Muzzin was injured.

Probably because Muzzin is also struggling this year.

Muzz seems to struggle with Holl only though....just looking at CF%
CF% All Strengths/EV/5v5 with...
Brodie..49.11/52.45/53
Rielly..67.27/66.67/65
Liljegren..53.7/58.59/58.7
Sandin..68.97/66.67/64
Holl..43.07/47.4/48