Blue Jackets @ Leafs - Dec. 7th, 7:00pm - TSN4, Fan 590

[azzurri63]

Also can we send Poulin to cover his Habs. More and more I listen to him the more I wanna puke.

 

[Deebo]

Absurd. No way Spezza should get more than Pionk. Quality player ?safety.?

No he deserved more...his was premeditated..Pionk's wasn't.

More than Pionk maybe, but more than Brendan Lemieux is ridiculous.

 

[bustaheims]

Absurd. No way Spezza should get more than Pionk. Quality player ?safety.?

No he deserved more...his was premeditated..Pionk's wasn't.

Hard to plan to be able to hit a guy when they?re flailing on the ice. Did Spezza lean into it? Maybe, but premeditated? Don?t buy it.

 

[LeafsDownUnder]

Absurd. No way Spezza should get more than Pionk. Quality player ?safety.?

No he deserved more...his was premeditated..Pionk's wasn't.

Pionk's play was clearly pre-meditated, even if only for a second.

 

[Kin]

Spezza was always going to get more because of how the league looks at targeted reprisals/headshots. 6 seems like one or two games too much to me but I don't think this is wildly out of place with how the league tends to hand out suspensions.

 

[disco]

I don?t think we need Mitch for the PP

Marner's big loss is the driven playmaking on his line and his penalty kill. The PP1 has gotten by without him.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Absurd. No way Spezza should get more than Pionk. Quality player ?safety.?

No he deserved more...his was premeditated..Pionk's wasn't.

More than Pionk maybe, but more than Brendan Lemieux is ridiculous.

I didn't say he deserved 6...I think that's a joke but he deserved more then Pionk.

 

[ZBBM]

I don't agree.  Spezza deserved 6 games, for all the reasons Dregs ran down.  The problem is Pionk deserved more than 2.  The other problem is that the refs are incompetent.  But Spezza deserved what he got ... though I'm only half-sorry he did it.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Absurd. No way Spezza should get more than Pionk. Quality player ?safety.?

No he deserved more...his was premeditated..Pionk's wasn't.

Pionk's play was clearly pre-meditated, even if only for a second.

No it wasn't..it was reactionary.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Spezza was always going to get more because of how the league looks at targeted reprisals/headshots. 6 seems like one or two games too much to me but I don't think this is wildly out of place with how the league tends to hand out suspensions.

Well said.

 

[rdowdall]

Bunting is third in rookie scoring.

 

[ZBBM]

Absurd. No way Spezza should get more than Pionk. Quality player ?safety.?

No he deserved more...his was premeditated..Pionk's wasn't.

Hard to plan to be able to hit a guy when they?re flailing on the ice. Did Spezza lean into it? Maybe, but premeditated? Don?t buy it.

What?  Spezza was totally headhunting.

 

[disco]

What should have happened was 5 and a game during the infraction and 2 games suspension.
Spezza's is an avenging hit which they really get off on and it was to the head. It's something Naz
would do in the playoffs, and get suspended for the rest of the series. 6 sounds about right to me.
How much salary is that lost for a league minimum contract? 

 

[Guilt Trip]

I don't agree.  Spezza deserved 6 games, for all the reasons Dregs ran down.  The problem is Pionk deserved more than 2.  The other problem is that the refs are incompetent.  But Spezza deserved what he got ... though I'm only half-sorry he did it.

I think 6 is a little high but you make a very good point. Pionk should have received more.

 

[LeafsDownUnder]

Absurd. No way Spezza should get more than Pionk. Quality player ?safety.?

No he deserved more...his was premeditated..Pionk's wasn't.

Pionk's play was clearly pre-meditated, even if only for a second.

No it wasn't..it was reactionary.

So a player in both instances made a decision to do something with an intent to likely injure the other player. Why are both situations handled differently?

 

[Deebo]

I can't believe anyone thinks he intentionally targeted his head with the knee.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Absurd. No way Spezza should get more than Pionk. Quality player ?safety.?

No he deserved more...his was premeditated..Pionk's wasn't.

Hard to plan to be able to hit a guy when they?re flailing on the ice. Did Spezza lean into it? Maybe, but premeditated? Don?t buy it.

What?  Spezza was totally headhunting.

For sure and I'm not sad about it..I've said it a few times now, I hope Simmonds or Clifford grabs him in the 31st and punches the crap out of him. Same goes for Dubois.  I will settle for Simmonds pounding Stanley tho lol.

 

[LeafsDownUnder]

Absurd. No way Spezza should get more than Pionk. Quality player ?safety.?

No he deserved more...his was premeditated..Pionk's wasn't.

Hard to plan to be able to hit a guy when they?re flailing on the ice. Did Spezza lean into it? Maybe, but premeditated? Don?t buy it.

What?  Spezza was totally headhunting.

The footage I saw had Spezza hitting Pionk's chest with his hip. The contact to the head looked incidental to me.

 

[Deebo]

Absurd. No way Spezza should get more than Pionk. Quality player ?safety.?

No he deserved more...his was premeditated..Pionk's wasn't.

Hard to plan to be able to hit a guy when they?re flailing on the ice. Did Spezza lean into it? Maybe, but premeditated? Don?t buy it.

What?  Spezza was totally headhunting.

I don't buy it.

 

[ZBBM]

I don't agree.  Spezza deserved 6 games, for all the reasons Dregs ran down.  The problem is Pionk deserved more than 2.  The other problem is that the refs are incompetent.  But Spezza deserved what he got ... though I'm only half-sorry he did it.

I think 6 is a little high but you make a very good point. Pionk should have received more.

Dreger drawing a comparison to Tavares' injury made a strong point.  Spezza could have really, really hurt Pionk doing what he did.  As angry as I was with Pionk in the moment, in hindsight you can't defend Spezza here IMO.