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Burke Fired

Ugh,

@mirtle
More interesting: Heard Corey Perry would have seriously considered joining his former GM when he becomes a UFA. Two have good relationship.

I was wondering how this might effect Getzlaf and Perry and the other upcoming crop nice free agents.
 
‏@mirtle
Those asking about Burke's new role: As it says in story, it's merely a title and paycheque. Make no mistake, Burke's out and he's angry.

I can't wait until he's out from under his paycheque gag order to hear what he has to say.
 
Burke had full autonomy. James Mirtle says that according to sources the board wanted someone who would listen to them, for better or for worse.
 
@mirtle: More interesting: Heard Corey Perry would have seriously considered joining his former GM when he becomes a UFA. Two have good relationship.

*groan*
 
Justin said:
Burke had full autonomy. James Mirtle says that according to sources the board wanted someone who would listen to them, for better or for worse.

I used to work for Bell and there are lots of things I'd like to say about upper management...

But with that aside, "listening" and acting upon suggestions are much different things. Hopefully Nonis gives them the time of day but realizes that he can't give in to a meddlesome board. A GM knows how to build a team, not a collection of media execs that can barely brand and position their business effectively without being the subject of ire for many, many Canadians.
 
Justin said:
Burke had full autonomy. James Mirtle says that according to sources the board wanted someone who would listen to them, for better or for worse.

And this is the scary thing.  We don't need the team to venture back to its old ways where the GM is not allowed to do his job as he deems fit/necessary.

Anselmi was asked by Cybulski yesterday if Nonis has full autonomy, and he quickly replied with, "Yes."  We'll see if that truly is the case.
 
Peter D. said:
Justin said:
Burke had full autonomy. James Mirtle says that according to sources the board wanted someone who would listen to them, for better or for worse.

And this is the scary thing.  We don't need the team to venture back to its old ways where the GM is not allowed to do his job as he deems fit/necessary.

Anselmi was asked by Cybulski yesterday if Nonis has full autonomy, and he quickly replied with, "Yes."  We'll see if that truly is the case.

He may have it in theory but what happens when a board member feels personally slighted when he doesn't take their advice?
 
I think the board fired him because they could not control him. I just hope Nonis is not a yes boy. we dont need the clowns at the top running the show, because then we would be back to becomming a circus. The bottom line is bad timing, and  an all out stupid move, just as were making a mad dash in a shortened season. and they say Burke wanted people to know who was in charge. I wish the fans had faces to go with these idiots.
 
Rob L said:
‏@mirtle
Those asking about Burke's new role: As it says in story, it's merely a title and paycheque. Make no mistake, Burke's out and he's angry.

I can't wait until he's out from under his paycheque gag order to hear what he has to say.

Burke won't say much.    I doubt he'll go on a rant and slam the Leafs and spill all sorts of dirt on what executives asked or told him. Him and his principles.
 
Bender said:
He may have it in theory but what happens when a board member feels personally slighted when he doesn't take their advice?

A winning hockey team is his best insulation
 
Peter D. said:
Anyone else find it odd that Burke had 1 year left on his contract whereas Nonis has 3.5?

That is odd.  I can't recall when Nonis was brought in, I thought it was the same time as Burke, so wouldn't he have had the same contract as Burke?  Or did Burke extend him recently?
 
Zee said:
Peter D. said:
Anyone else find it odd that Burke had 1 year left on his contract whereas Nonis has 3.5?

That is odd.  I can't recall when Nonis was brought in, I thought it was the same time as Burke, so wouldn't he have had the same contract as Burke?  Or did Burke extend him recently?

I'm pretty sure Nonis joined the Leafs before Burke.
 
Deebo said:
Zee said:
Peter D. said:
Anyone else find it odd that Burke had 1 year left on his contract whereas Nonis has 3.5?

That is odd.  I can't recall when Nonis was brought in, I thought it was the same time as Burke, so wouldn't he have had the same contract as Burke?  Or did Burke extend him recently?

I'm pretty sure Nonis joined the Leafs before Burke.

No, Burke brought him in from Anaheim.
 
Didn't Nonis contract run out a year back and then he was re-upped:? I think he originally had like a 3 year deal so it was up before BB's
 
Bender said:
Peter D. said:
Justin said:
Burke had full autonomy. James Mirtle says that according to sources the board wanted someone who would listen to them, for better or for worse.

And this is the scary thing.  We don't need the team to venture back to its old ways where the GM is not allowed to do his job as he deems fit/necessary.

Anselmi was asked by Cybulski yesterday if Nonis has full autonomy, and he quickly replied with, "Yes."  We'll see if that truly is the case.

He may have it in theory but what happens when a board member feels personally slighted when he doesn't take their advice?

But this is where Burke probably lacked finesse.  There are ways that you can appease an upper management team when they give you bad suggestions.  Burke's approach to things was probably to always be as blunt as possible, and that is admirable, but it doesn't always work with everyone.  I once worked for a company that had two owners.  One of the owners you could have a conversation with, and you could say how you really felt and there never was a problem.  That owner just wanted the plain hard facts.  The other owner always wanted to be right.  So you had to listen to his argument, make your case, somewhat stubbornly, but not too stubbornly and then wait.  In a couple of days that owner would come back you and say that they had changed their mind and that they now wanted to go with a new approach.  Most of the time, that approach was the one that you presented, but you never got credit for it.  It was frustrating, but that was the way it was.

Bottom line, it would appear that Nonis may have a little more tact than Burke, and if that is the case and he is as smart a hockey man as everyone is saying he is, then the Leafs may be okay, but only time will tell.
 

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