• For users coming over from tmlfans.ca your username will remain the same but you will need to use the password reset feature (check your spam folder) on the login page in order to set your password. If you encounter issues, email Rick couchmanrick@gmail.com

Coaching and management changes around the league

I won't pretend to know everything about DeBoer as a coach but I feel like both his last two firings have been a little undeserved.

6 series wins with San Jose in 4 years, all with a mostly aging core and goaltending that was just average at best. In his final full season there they finished with 101 points despite Martin Jones' career finally nosediving and having a 0.896 Sv% in 62 games (with Aaron Dell backing him up with a .886 Sv%). They somehow made it all the way to the West finals that year with Jones having a .898 Sv% in the playoffs. If that's not getting the most out of a team I don't know what is.

Then in Vegas he brings them to the Finals in his first year as a mid-season replacement, ties the Presidents Trophy winner in points in his 2nd season, then misses the playoffs in his 3rd year. And maybe there's an argument to be made that he could have done more late in the season to push Vegas in but that was also a disastrous season for Vegas in terms of injuries. Their 1C, 1LW, 1RW, and 3D all played less than half the season. They also had a lot of other injuries, including to their starting goalie. There's probably a lot of coaches who wouldn't have been able to muster a 52.6% CF and 52.6% xGF out of Vegas this past season considering the line-ups he had to ice most of the time.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I won't pretend to know everything about DeBoer as a coach but I feel like both his last two firings have been a little undeserved.

6 series wins with San Jose in 4 years, all with a mostly aging core and goaltending that was just average at best. In his final full season there they finished with 101 points despite Martin Jones' career finally nosediving and having a 0.896 Sv% in 62 games (with Aaron Dell backing him up with a .886 Sv%). They somehow made it all the way to the West finals that year with Jones having a .898 Sv% in the playoffs. If that's not getting the most out of a team I don't know what is.

Then in Vegas he brings them to the Finals in his first year as a mid-season replacement, ties the Presidents Trophy winner in points in his 2nd season, then misses the playoffs in his 3rd year. And maybe there's an argument to be made that he could have done more late in the season to push Vegas in but that was also a disastrous season for Vegas in terms of injuries. Their 1C, 1LW, 1RW, and 3D all played less than half the season. They also had a lot of other injuries, including to their starting goalie. There's probably a lot of coaches who wouldn't have been able to muster a 52.6% CF and 52.6% xGF out of Vegas this past season considering the line-ups he had to ice most of the time.
I don't think DeBoer made it to the Finals with Vegas. I know he made it to the Conference Finals against Dallas. He did make it to the Finals with SJ in 15/16.
 
Yeah hockeydb weirdly lists Vegas as going to "round 4" that year and I didn't really think much of it. But I guess they're counting the qualifier as a round that year.
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
bustaheims said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
herman said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
https://twitter.com/friedgehnic/status/1538700686296330240

How does he keep getting hired
He won a Stanley Cup just 19 short years ago.

Lies. He never won a Stanley Cup. He's only ever lost in the finals.
Unsure if this is sarcasm or just incorrect.

Peter DeBoer has never won the Stanley Cup (in real life). He?s lost in the finals twice. He also wasn?t coaching in the NHL 19 years ago. He did win the Memorial Cup 19 years ago, though. So, partial credit for you.
 
bustaheims said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
bustaheims said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
herman said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
https://twitter.com/friedgehnic/status/1538700686296330240

How does he keep getting hired
He won a Stanley Cup just 19 short years ago.

Lies. He never won a Stanley Cup. He's only ever lost in the finals.
Unsure if this is sarcasm or just incorrect.

Peter DeBoer has never won the Stanley Cup (in real life). He?s lost in the finals twice. He also wasn?t coaching in the NHL 19 years ago. He did win the Memorial Cup 19 years ago, though. So, partial credit for you.
Oh, Lord, somehow I was thinking the discussion was about Tortorella! Oof.
 
Just realized this might increase the odds of them finding a way to re-sign Chiarot (who developed under Maurice in Winnipeg).
 
Nik said:
Looks like Andrew Brunette is out, our old buddy Paul Maurice is in down in Miami.

51-18-6 and out. Seems like they prefer Maurice's 13-11-5 record. I mean, not exactly even teams, but this is a head scratcher for sure.
 
https://twitter.com/atfulemin/status/1539616552588349441
https://twitter.com/ineffectivemath/status/1539612995852050434

Honestly this is great for the Leafs lol
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1540405856696664064

I bet.

It'll be hilarious when he's behind the bench of some other team at training camp.
"Well when I said I didn't want to get into coaching right away, I meant attending the draft and such"
 
Zee said:
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1540405856696664064

I bet.

It'll be hilarious when he's behind the bench of some other team at training camp.
"Well when I said I didn't want to get into coaching right away, I meant attending the draft and such associating with the Jets in any way."
 

About Us

This website is NOT associated with the Toronto Maple Leafs or the NHL.


It is operated by Rick Couchman and Jeff Lewis.
Back
Top