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Contracts for the Big-3

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Guilt Trip said:
Bates said:
Guilt Trip said:
Nik the Trik said:
Guilt Trip said:
You save that with 5 players contracts and it adds up quickly. You have to save where you can with each and every contract. There's a reason the Leafs haven't budged on their number. There's no such a thing as it's just 400K in a cap world.

So you hurt your team's performance in the regular season and risk alienating your top young players five times and maybe you save 2.5% of the cap.
Where did I say that? I didn't. Simply responding to the "Its only 400k" comment. If you read where I said there's a reason the Leafs haven't budged you would understand. Obviously not.

He explained in the next post.
Don't talk logically to him. He loves to argue and will never stop until he thinks he's won. What he wins is beyond me and that's why I never bothered to or will respond to him here. He can read into anything he wants. Again, obviously it's too simple for him to follow. Cheers Bates.
It's some serious OCD and a good heaping of pig headedness, IMO.
 
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sickbeast said:
These guys must be such a treat in real life, guys.  Laughing at us while they act like pig headed trolls.  Nice.
The googles is filled with keyboard heroes and trolls.
Good one BB..pee shivers lol
 
sickbeast said:

You keep up with this incessant criticism and bitching and moaning with nobody responding to you, yet you're calling others pig headed trolls? I genuinely am not sure what you're after on here.
 
Seriously what the hell is going on?  I don't think anyone envisioned the stalemate to go on this long. I can't believe Nylander is willing to sacrifice an entire season of NHL hockey over this.  I can see how Dubas will stick to his guns, he's not going to suddenly cave to a higher salary, or trade Nylander for the sake of getting "something" back.

A bridge deal just makes sense here.  Sign a 2 year bridge, if Nylander performs at a point a game pace over those 2 seasons I'm sure he would leapfrog Marner on this next contract since the cap will have increased over those 2 seasons.  I don't see what the holdup is?
 
It's so clear that these "insiders" know absolutely nothing. Just shut up and let see what happens or doesn't happen at the end of the month.
 
cabber24 said:
It's so clear that these "insiders" know absolutely nothing. Just shut up and let see what happens or doesn't happen at the end of the month.
The insiders have known nothing for months. There have been absolutely no leaks from anyone here. All speculation to what they think he's asking for. Who knows, maybe the Leafs are offering 5.5, maybe less?
 
Zee said:
Seriously what the hell is going on?  I don't think anyone envisioned the stalemate to go on this long. I can't believe Nylander is willing to sacrifice an entire season of NHL hockey over this.  I can see how Dubas will stick to his guns, he's not going to suddenly cave to a higher salary, or trade Nylander for the sake of getting "something" back.

A bridge deal just makes sense here.  Sign a 2 year bridge, if Nylander performs at a point a game pace over those 2 seasons I'm sure he would leapfrog Marner on this next contract since the cap will have increased over those 2 seasons.  I don't see what the holdup is?

I think it's pretty clear that one side or both sides think they can get a better deal by waiting it out. We have no idea which side might think that or if they're right.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Zee said:
Seriously what the hell is going on?  I don't think anyone envisioned the stalemate to go on this long. I can't believe Nylander is willing to sacrifice an entire season of NHL hockey over this.  I can see how Dubas will stick to his guns, he's not going to suddenly cave to a higher salary, or trade Nylander for the sake of getting "something" back.

A bridge deal just makes sense here.  Sign a 2 year bridge, if Nylander performs at a point a game pace over those 2 seasons I'm sure he would leapfrog Marner on this next contract since the cap will have increased over those 2 seasons.  I don't see what the holdup is?

I think it's pretty clear that one side or both sides think they can get a better deal by waiting it out. We have no idea which side might think that or if they're right.

I wonder if there is a steady offer from some team that is higher than what the Leafs are offering. And Nylander figures the Leafs either match, or trade him to that team.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Zee said:
Seriously what the hell is going on?  I don't think anyone envisioned the stalemate to go on this long. I can't believe Nylander is willing to sacrifice an entire season of NHL hockey over this.  I can see how Dubas will stick to his guns, he's not going to suddenly cave to a higher salary, or trade Nylander for the sake of getting "something" back.

A bridge deal just makes sense here.  Sign a 2 year bridge, if Nylander performs at a point a game pace over those 2 seasons I'm sure he would leapfrog Marner on this next contract since the cap will have increased over those 2 seasons.  I don't see what the holdup is?

I think it's pretty clear that one side or both sides think they can get a better deal by waiting it out. We have no idea which side might think that or if they're right.

I was thinking, in the name of shrewd negotiation, that it might be good for Nylander to get himself to Toronto to put the pressure on.
 
Bill_Berg said:
Nik the Trik said:
Zee said:
Seriously what the hell is going on?  I don't think anyone envisioned the stalemate to go on this long. I can't believe Nylander is willing to sacrifice an entire season of NHL hockey over this.  I can see how Dubas will stick to his guns, he's not going to suddenly cave to a higher salary, or trade Nylander for the sake of getting "something" back.

A bridge deal just makes sense here.  Sign a 2 year bridge, if Nylander performs at a point a game pace over those 2 seasons I'm sure he would leapfrog Marner on this next contract since the cap will have increased over those 2 seasons.  I don't see what the holdup is?

I think it's pretty clear that one side or both sides think they can get a better deal by waiting it out. We have no idea which side might think that or if they're right.

I wonder if there is a steady offer from some team that is higher than what the Leafs are offering. And Nylander figures the Leafs either match, or trade him to that team.
That's not how it would work. If some better offer is out there from another team they have to offer up enough compensation to the Leafs for the Leafs to consider it. They won't just trade him for the sake of doing it.
 
Zee said:
Bill_Berg said:
Nik the Trik said:
Zee said:
Seriously what the hell is going on?  I don't think anyone envisioned the stalemate to go on this long. I can't believe Nylander is willing to sacrifice an entire season of NHL hockey over this.  I can see how Dubas will stick to his guns, he's not going to suddenly cave to a higher salary, or trade Nylander for the sake of getting "something" back.

A bridge deal just makes sense here.  Sign a 2 year bridge, if Nylander performs at a point a game pace over those 2 seasons I'm sure he would leapfrog Marner on this next contract since the cap will have increased over those 2 seasons.  I don't see what the holdup is?

I think it's pretty clear that one side or both sides think they can get a better deal by waiting it out. We have no idea which side might think that or if they're right.

I wonder if there is a steady offer from some team that is higher than what the Leafs are offering. And Nylander figures the Leafs either match, or trade him to that team.
That's not how it would work. If some better offer is out there from another team they have to offer up enough compensation to the Leafs for the Leafs to consider it. They won't just trade him for the sake of doing it.

I'm not saying an offer sheet. Teams are allowed to talk to RFAs. They could give him the sheey, he doesn't sign it, but sees the dollars and knows he's got that in his back pocket. So he waits for the Leafs to match without signing the actual offer sheet.
 
Bill_Berg said:
Zee said:
Bill_Berg said:
Nik the Trik said:
Zee said:
Seriously what the hell is going on?  I don't think anyone envisioned the stalemate to go on this long. I can't believe Nylander is willing to sacrifice an entire season of NHL hockey over this.  I can see how Dubas will stick to his guns, he's not going to suddenly cave to a higher salary, or trade Nylander for the sake of getting "something" back.

A bridge deal just makes sense here.  Sign a 2 year bridge, if Nylander performs at a point a game pace over those 2 seasons I'm sure he would leapfrog Marner on this next contract since the cap will have increased over those 2 seasons.  I don't see what the holdup is?

I think it's pretty clear that one side or both sides think they can get a better deal by waiting it out. We have no idea which side might think that or if they're right.

I wonder if there is a steady offer from some team that is higher than what the Leafs are offering. And Nylander figures the Leafs either match, or trade him to that team.
That's not how it would work. If some better offer is out there from another team they have to offer up enough compensation to the Leafs for the Leafs to consider it. They won't just trade him for the sake of doing it.

I'm not saying an offer sheet. Teams are allowed to talk to RFAs. They could give him the sheey, he doesn't sign it, but sees the dollars and knows he's got that in his back pocket. So he waits for the Leafs to match without signing the actual offer sheet.
The team would have to be willing to pay Nylander a large number AND give up good assets for him. That's a huge ask of any other team. Given that there hasn't been a sniff of an offer sheet I say that list of teams is slim to none.
 
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