I get that there's a very good case that kids have to go back to school in the fall... but I don't know why this guy would take such a dick-ish tone about it. Can you not at least pretend you care?
Coronavirus
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bustaheims
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CarltonTheBear said:
Yeah. The social and psychological impact of the measures we've taken to fight the virus have definitely not been helpful to school-aged children - especially considering they're not likely mature enough or aware enough to identify them and develop strategies to cope - and getting them back to school will be helpful in minimizing those impacts. But, it has to be done in a safe and sustainable way. Otherwise, all that we're doing is increasing the risk to those children, their extended and immediate families, their teachers and their families, etc., which will only worsen the social and psychological impacts on the children.
Heroic Shrimp
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https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1285271905772007424
Kin
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Another jump up in cases today. Over 200 in Ontario for the first time in weeks. It seems effectively unavoidable that opening up the province is going to lead to these increases.
I don't know if there's a good answer here between the need to get back to some semblance of normalcy vs. trying to contain the outbreaks but I think pretending that we can avoid it simply by encouraging people to be responsible is probably untrue.
I don't know if there's a good answer here between the need to get back to some semblance of normalcy vs. trying to contain the outbreaks but I think pretending that we can avoid it simply by encouraging people to be responsible is probably untrue.
https://twitter.com/LaurenPelley/status/1285628883384045568
Don't go to a party!!!! unless it's in a bar
Don't go to a party!!!! unless it's in a bar
Kin
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It's ok, necessary even, that people go to work and be productive. And also shop as much as they can. Got to keep capitalism humming. But partying? No sir. From your cot to your cubicle to the spend-o-mart and repeat cycle. It's the approved drone lifestyle so that the queen never runs out of royal jelly.
CarltonTheBear said:
If they don't want people getting together why the hell did they open bars? It's so asinine to me that the suggestion is "Well, if we didn't open bars then they could be having houseparties."
People who want to have houseparties will have them regardless, but people who would otherwise go to bars...haven't been going to bars because they're closed! My friend from Montreal went to a bar literally because the government opened them and then got sick. It's such idiotic logic.
OldTimeHockey
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Bender said:
I have no interest in eating/drinking indoors at a restaurant or bar. Ive been on a patio once shortly after stage 2 opened. It felt great. I still haven't gone back though.
The thought of being indoors at a restaurant or bar makes me very uncomfortable.
I get that they'll sell it that it's about getting people back to work, but at what cost?
Bullfrog
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OldTimeHockey said:
I more or less feel the same, but in my region there are zero known active cases. Chances are I could lick the tables and be totally fine (other than the thousands of other bacteria and viruses I'd pick up.) I'm mostly reluctant because the experience will be a pain in the butt having to wear and remove a mask several times.
My family rarely eats out; we've been getting take-out mostly to support local restaurants.
Arn
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In Northern Ireland we've had a really good run of zero covid related deaths and minimal new positive tests, except last week we had a small cluster in one area (apparently partly related to a karaoke party where they didn't clean the microphone between singers...) of about 30 positive tests.
So we've had 5 deaths in July and a total of 120 positive tests and out testing and tracing system seems to be locating the clusters to help stop a wider spread so far.
That includes us having done things like opening up restaurants, gyms etc. and we've been playing grassroots sports for a few weeks (with various measures in place). As of this week we're allowing distanced crowds back to watch sport so we have the Irish Cup football final next week and they're aiming to have a couple of thousand spectators in the 20,000 seat stadium.
Fingers crossed for small positive steps to continue here and hopefully others can do the same
So we've had 5 deaths in July and a total of 120 positive tests and out testing and tracing system seems to be locating the clusters to help stop a wider spread so far.
That includes us having done things like opening up restaurants, gyms etc. and we've been playing grassroots sports for a few weeks (with various measures in place). As of this week we're allowing distanced crowds back to watch sport so we have the Irish Cup football final next week and they're aiming to have a couple of thousand spectators in the 20,000 seat stadium.
Fingers crossed for small positive steps to continue here and hopefully others can do the same
Heroic Shrimp
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https://twitter.com/jkwan_md/status/1288476409464324096
Heroic Shrimp said:
Toronto's numbers in particular are pretty insane. Just 5 new cases reported yesterday. Of course the big test is still to come with stage 3 starting there Friday.
Nik said:
I'm not sure if you've seen the actual document where that gets recorded but it's under the header "change in cases July 28" which doesn't necessarily mean "new cases July 28". A -13 figure would be the result of previous data being cleaned up or fixed on that day. So maybe there were cases that Toronto Public Health recorded previously that ended up not actually being positive results. Or maybe there was a positive result recorded under TPH that actually belonged to Peel. Something like that.
OldTimeHockey
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Nik said:
I read that as they had 5 cases(as stated above) but had 18 recoveries?
OldTimeHockey
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Bullfrog said:
We had no active cases here in Sudbury for close to a month. In the last 5 days we've had 12. 11 of them were all associated with travel or contact with someone who had been travelling. It's crazy how quickly it can work it's way back into your community.
Hobbes
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We had that in New Brunswick. A single person who traveled out of province for only a weekend, didn't self-isolate upon return, and resulted in a community spread that ended up with about 40 new cases and 2 deaths before it was contained.OldTimeHockey said:
Moral of the story: it only takes one idiot/careless person to impact the lives of an entire community and unintentionally lead to other people's deaths. Don't be that person.
OldTimeHockey
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Hobbes said:
Up to 22 cases in the last 5 days. That's a 33% increase of our total cases. Not all 22 appear to be coming from this one person, but it's odd that the numbers go through the roof when the one case pops up.
A large number of the cases are unknown sources.