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Coronavirus

herman said:
https://twitter.com/david_moscrop/status/1415689529227456513
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And here we are with little further incentive for the remaining 20% to get vaccinated even though we're only here because the other 80% got their shots. This is the worst version of the free rider problem.
 
And now they're not going to have a vaccine passport system, that they've already developed and had a working model ready to go, because they know that courting the anti-vax vote is crucial to re-election.

Pro-Vax Passport when businesses wanted it as a step to re-open, anti-passport when courting the nutjobs. Ford's Ontario.
 
Nik said:
And now they're not going to have a vaccine passport system, that they've already developed and had a working model ready to go, because they know that courting the anti-vax vote is crucial to re-election.

Pro-Vax Passport when businesses wanted it as a step to re-open, anti-passport when courting the nutjobs. Ford's Ontario.
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And it's just funny to me that Ford defended this by saying he doesn't want to split society. It's already split between people who are trying to pull in the same direction & end the pandemic by reducing contacts and getting shots and it being dragged back down by people who either don't give a shit or who are not tethered to reality. There is no incentive really for any vaccinated person to unknowingly and repeatedly have potential covid exposure by those people. I'm not going to indoor restaurants or the like any time soon.
 
Played my first ball hockey game since March 2020 after playing regularly for 10 years. I'm pretty sure I'm dying but damn it felt nice.
 
I don?t understand the concerns if fully vaccinated.

If someone doesn?t want to get vaccinated, let them be and deal with any repercussions.
 
Fully vaccinated doesn't mean immune. You can still be infected, which means you can still get sick and still pass it on to someone else.

from a broader economic stance, which I'm less concerned about, if an unvaccinated person gets sick, their illness will likely be more severe than a vaccinated person. This means potential hospitalization and stress on a system that we all pay for.

Outside of a legitimate medical reason, it's just lazy and irresponsible.
 
Bullfrog said:
Fully vaccinated doesn't mean immune. You can still be infected, which means you can still get sick and still pass it on to someone else.

from a broader economic stance, which I'm less concerned about, if an unvaccinated person gets sick, their illness will likely be more severe than a vaccinated person. This means potential hospitalization and stress on a system that we all pay for.

Outside of a legitimate medical reason, it's just lazy and irresponsible.
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On top of that, unvaccinated people give COVID chance after chance after chance to produce another variant that bypasses the current slate of vaccines' protection. There's probably significant overlap with the unvaccinated demographic and the people who engage unmasked-undistanced behaviour (for freedom?), which will lead to a rolling wave of lockdowns/deaths.

The choice to not vaccinate (other than medical exemption), takes choice away from everyone else.
 
herman said:
Bullfrog said:
Fully vaccinated doesn't mean immune. You can still be infected, which means you can still get sick and still pass it on to someone else.

from a broader economic stance, which I'm less concerned about, if an unvaccinated person gets sick, their illness will likely be more severe than a vaccinated person. This means potential hospitalization and stress on a system that we all pay for.

Outside of a legitimate medical reason, it's just lazy and irresponsible.
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On top of that, unvaccinated people give COVID chance after chance after chance to produce another variant that bypasses the current slate of vaccines' protection. There's probably significant overlap with the unvaccinated demographic and the people who engage unmasked-undistanced behaviour (for freedom?), which will lead to a rolling wave of lockdowns/deaths.

The choice to not vaccinate (other than medical exemption), takes choice away from everyone else.
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Between the variants, breakthrough infections, immunocompromised individuals, etc., there are lots of reasons to be concerned. The delta variant is already showing itself to be somewhat vaccine resistant; there's still a lot of unknowns around the lambda variant, etc. Until the world at large reaches a high level of vaccination, there's always potential for a serious re-emergence.
 
bustaheims said:
herman said:
Bullfrog said:
Fully vaccinated doesn't mean immune. You can still be infected, which means you can still get sick and still pass it on to someone else.

from a broader economic stance, which I'm less concerned about, if an unvaccinated person gets sick, their illness will likely be more severe than a vaccinated person. This means potential hospitalization and stress on a system that we all pay for.

Outside of a legitimate medical reason, it's just lazy and irresponsible.
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On top of that, unvaccinated people give COVID chance after chance after chance to produce another variant that bypasses the current slate of vaccines' protection. There's probably significant overlap with the unvaccinated demographic and the people who engage unmasked-undistanced behaviour (for freedom?), which will lead to a rolling wave of lockdowns/deaths.

The choice to not vaccinate (other than medical exemption), takes choice away from everyone else.
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Between the variants, breakthrough infections, immunocompromised individuals, etc., there are lots of reasons to be concerned. The delta variant is already showing itself to be somewhat vaccine resistant; there's still a lot of unknowns around the lambda variant, etc. Until the world at large reaches a high level of vaccination, there's always potential for a serious re-emergence.
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I get all this. As much as I was vaccine reluctant, I did my part. But I?m no longer going to live my life with fear about those unvaccinated and any resurgence. The virus will always be around.
 
Peter D. said:
I get all this. As much as I was vaccine reluctant, I did my part. But I?m no longer going to live my life with fear about those unvaccinated and any resurgence. The virus will always be around.
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It's not so much about living life with fear because of the virus, it's more about the strain it has had and will continue to have on the health care system if we all don't do our part to minimize the effects.
 
Just flew through the U.S to get to the Caribbean.  The airlines are totally stringent on the covid situation.
although we got served a few rumola's on the Westjet flight to Toronto, there was absolutely zero booze on the AA flights,  passengers were getting so unruly about having to wear masks when they were plastered, that fights were breaking out between the flight attendants and passengers. Broken legs and arms were reported by our flight attendant and that is why AA stopped serving.

I remember when air travel was fun, party on the plane, young beautiful stewardess's  What the F  happened?
 
Highlander said:
I remember when air travel was fun, party on the plane, young beautiful stewardess's  What the F  happened?
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Yeah...what did happen to make air travel more stressful and less fun...hmmm...

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CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1416410634418278400
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Good visual here. Canada may have started too slow for some, but now leading the world.

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
 
Bullfrog said:
Highlander said:
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I remember when air travel was fun, party on the plane, young beautiful stewardess's  What the F  happened?
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Well, for one, they started to recognize sexism.
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No the young stewardess's became older flight attendants, who are for the most part lovely women.
 
Highlander said:
No the young stewardess's became older flight attendants, who are for the most part lovely women.
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That's a seniority thing. The younger/newer flight attendants start on short haul domestic flights.
 
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