• For users coming over from tmlfans.ca your username will remain the same but you will need to use the password reset feature (check your spam folder) on the login page in order to set your password. If you encounter issues, email Rick couchmanrick@gmail.com

Dave Bolland

If Leivo can consistently bring it, he'll put up good numbers. He's been a scorer everywhere he's been but has also been wildly inconsistent. That being said, I don't think it's crazy to suggest he'd put up 10-15 goals/30-35 points playing 3rd line minutes.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
If Leivo can consistently bring it, he'll put up good numbers. He's been a scorer everywhere he's been but has also been wildly inconsistent. That being said, I don't think it's crazy to suggest he'd put up 10-15 goals/30-35 points playing 3rd line minutes.
Click to expand...

I don't think it's crazy, either, for him or possibly for someone like Ashton (I'd like to see what he can do with more than 5-6 minutes a night, as he scored at a good clip for the Marlies) or maybe even D'Amigo. They'd also be doing it for likely close to $2M less on the cap than what it would take to re-sign Raymond. If the team thinks they can't do it, there's also likely to be another couple potential $1M per reclamation projects out there that could. I mean, it's not like we're talking elite level production here. There'll be close to 200 forwards who will put up similar or better totals this season.
 
slapshot said:
With Bolland returning at some point and the trade deadline approaching. How should the Leafs lines going into the playoffs stack up? And, who might you deal away or get? I can't see much happening on the back-end now that things appeared settled there, so let's talk line combinations. Here are some possible or likely alignments...

Option 1
JVR                Bozak          Kessel
Lupul              Kadri          _____
Mason/Kulemin  Bolland      Clarkson
___________  McClement    Bodie

Extras or trade bait...Holland, Mason, Kulemin???

Option 2
JVR                Bozak              Kessel
Lupul              Kadri              Clarkson/Bolland
Mason            Bolland/Holland Clarkson
___________  McClement        Bodie

If Bolland was moved to wing 2nd line, Holland could be 3rd line center.
Or Clarkson could be moved to second line, Holland center, Bolland wing 3rd line
Kulemin bumped to fourth line.

Option 3 (However you see it?)

I think top line stays intact
I think second line Kadri and Lupul on left wing stay intact
I think the most obvious change when Bolland/Clarkson come back is that Bodie should replace Orr (pretty much permanently...unless things get ugly) as the fourth line right wing. Skates better, works hard, more skill and score the occasional goal or helps create one. Apart from the odd scrap, where Orr may hold a slight advantage, Bodie wins this comparison hands down.
I like Bolland at third line center but I like Holland too. Could Bolland be as effective on a wing?
Essentially what all this says is that there are question marks around...
1. Right wing second line. I think we could and should upgrade on Kulemin. Would love to see Matt Moulson, but not sure what it would take.
2. Precise make up of third line alignment
3. Left wing on fourth line. I am okay with McClement and Bodie. I actually think Jerry D'amigo brought some energy, is good skater and penalty killer. Would like to seen him get a longer look.

Would like to hear everyone's thoughts on the forward group. There will be some extra bodies (no, not Bodie plural) kicking around. How do we achieve the right fit?
Click to expand...


Kulemin is one of the best all round players on this team, so why would you even think of him not on one of the top three lines.
 
nutman said:
slapshot said:
With Bolland returning at some point and the trade deadline approaching. How should the Leafs lines going into the playoffs stack up? And, who might you deal away or get? I can't see much happening on the back-end now that things appeared settled there, so let's talk line combinations. Here are some possible or likely alignments...

Option 1
JVR                Bozak          Kessel
Lupul              Kadri          _____
Mason/Kulemin  Bolland      Clarkson
___________  McClement    Bodie

Extras or trade bait...Holland, Mason, Kulemin???

Option 2
JVR                Bozak              Kessel
Lupul              Kadri              Clarkson/Bolland
Mason            Bolland/Holland Clarkson
___________  McClement        Bodie

If Bolland was moved to wing 2nd line, Holland could be 3rd line center.
Or Clarkson could be moved to second line, Holland center, Bolland wing 3rd line
Kulemin bumped to fourth line.

Option 3 (However you see it?)

I think top line stays intact
I think second line Kadri and Lupul on left wing stay intact
I think the most obvious change when Bolland/Clarkson come back is that Bodie should replace Orr (pretty much permanently...unless things get ugly) as the fourth line right wing. Skates better, works hard, more skill and score the occasional goal or helps create one. Apart from the odd scrap, where Orr may hold a slight advantage, Bodie wins this comparison hands down.
I like Bolland at third line center but I like Holland too. Could Bolland be as effective on a wing?
Essentially what all this says is that there are question marks around...
1. Right wing second line. I think we could and should upgrade on Kulemin. Would love to see Matt Moulson, but not sure what it would take.
2. Precise make up of third line alignment
3. Left wing on fourth line. I am okay with McClement and Bodie. I actually think Jerry D'amigo brought some energy, is good skater and penalty killer. Would like to seen him get a longer look.

Would like to hear everyone's thoughts on the forward group. There will be some extra bodies (no, not Bodie plural) kicking around. How do we achieve the right fit?
Click to expand...


Kulemin is one of the best all round players on this team, so why would you even think of him not on one of the top three lines.
Click to expand...

There are many who don't see that in him unfortunately.
 
bustaheims said:
OldTimeHockey said:
If Leivo can consistently bring it, he'll put up good numbers. He's been a scorer everywhere he's been but has also been wildly inconsistent. That being said, I don't think it's crazy to suggest he'd put up 10-15 goals/30-35 points playing 3rd line minutes.
Click to expand...

I don't think it's crazy, either, for him or possibly for someone like Ashton (I'd like to see what he can do with more than 5-6 minutes a night, as he scored at a good clip for the Marlies) or maybe even D'Amigo. They'd also be doing it for likely close to $2M less on the cap than what it would take to re-sign Raymond. If the team thinks they can't do it, there's also likely to be another couple potential $1M per reclamation projects out there that could. I mean, it's not like we're talking elite level production here. There'll be close to 200 forwards who will put up similar or better totals this season.
Click to expand...

This has kind of turned into a Raymond thread and I continue the hi-jack and will post here as well:

I agree with both of you guys.  1st Leivo seemed more willing to get in the dirty areas AND had a good shot.  He will be around next season for less than $800,000.

Plus Raymond's scoring MUST be wanted THIS year by some good teams that are having a hard time finding the back of the net.
 
Corn Flake said:
Which they have been doing basically all year, yet they are in the playoffs as of right now.
Click to expand...

Thanks to spectacular goaltending and success in the shootout. Not exactly a sound strategy or something you can bank on continuing.
 
Hey Busta, whatever works my friend whatever works.  Last year who dreamed we would take Boston to the last 4 mintutes of Game 7.  Oh forgot Randy, call a friken time out dude.
 
Word is that Bolland is trying to get a game or two in before the Olympic break. Seems pretty rushed doesn't it? He hasn't even participated in a full practice yet. He is probably better off taking the extra 2 weeks or so and get completely ready, or at least more ready.
 
Kessel Run said:
Word is that Bolland is trying to get a game or two in before the Olympic break. Seems pretty rushed doesn't it? He hasn't even participated in a full practice yet. He is probably better off taking the extra 2 weeks or so and get completely ready, or at least more ready.
Click to expand...

Dreger said a couple weeks ago that the plan was to have him play a couple of games before the break as well. I agree with you though. I know every game is going to be important but I'd rather just shut him down until after the break.
 
Highlander said:
why risk him when we are on a tear?let him heal for the extra three weeks.
Click to expand...

I agree, if he's close to playing that's great, but why rush it when there's already a built-in extra 3 week break where he doesn't miss anymore games?  It'll take time for him to get his legs back, maybe they want to see where he's at the last game or 2?  Hope he doesn't get re-injured if he plays too early.
 
That is the danger, play him to early and blow out the tendon, let him get skating over the break and get back into top form, any other course of action would be short sited, as letting Clarkson completely heal. Its not like they are on a losing streak going into the toilet.
 
I remember the same concerns when Kessel came back in his first year here and he hasn't missed one game since.

Why do people think that the doctors would clear him if there is an actual risk of re-injuring himself? How can any of us realistically assess if he is being "rushed" back, without the medical expertise or access to his medical information?

He's been skating for nearly 3 weeks and practicing with the team for a week or so now, how does it seem rushed?
 
Deebo said:
I remember the same concerns when Kessel came back in his first year here and he hasn't missed one game since.

Why do people think that the doctors would clear him if there is an actual risk of re-injuring himself? How can any of us realistically assess if he is being "rushed" back, without the medical expertise or access to his medical information?

He's been skating for nearly 3 weeks and practicing with the team for a week or so now, how does it seem rushed?
Click to expand...

"We" always seem to assume the worst will happen.

he could get hit by a car tomorrow too.  Likely similar odds.
 
If we didn't have the Olympic break coming up I don't think people would be making a big deal about when he comes back.
 
I understand what you are saying but look at the case of Clarkson, his elbow was not healed and he came back to burst the sac again and he should let it heal properly if we are not hurting, same for Bolland. I am not a doctor but do play one on television.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

About Us

This website is NOT associated with the Toronto Maple Leafs or the NHL.


It is operated by Rick Couchman and Jeff Lewis.
Back
Top