WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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herman said:Hot diggity I thought it'd be 3M for 4 years.
How the hell did we get him for less than Hyman or Martin?
(No UFA years)
princedpw said:Given Hyman's deal, this does not seem fair to brown.
Nik the Trik said:princedpw said:Given Hyman's deal, this does not seem fair to brown.
You're paying for UFA years with Hyman, not for Brown.
I personally don't see the wisdom in keeping either guy around for much longer but if you're going to you still have to deal with them on that basis to some extent.
freer said:I dont understand your last statement why would want to sign player who scored 20 goals as a rookie in Brown. You should ask why they would pay 6.5 mil for a 37 year old player
Nik the Trik said:princedpw said:Given Hyman's deal, this does not seem fair to brown.
You're paying for UFA years with Hyman, not for Brown.
I personally don't see the wisdom in keeping either guy around for much longer but if you're going to you still have to deal with them on that basis to some extent.
BrownRolo said:You don't see the wisdom of keeping them around? Then who do you suggest takes their place?
freer said:I dont understand your last statement why wouldn't you want to sign player who scored 20 goals as a rookie in Brown.
Nik the Trik said:BrownRolo said:You don't see the wisdom of keeping them around? Then who do you suggest takes their place?
Well, in Brown's case I think that's an already answered question. Right now the Leafs depth chart at RW has, or should have, three guys on it in Marner, Nylander and Kapanen who are younger and better. So the easy answer is Kapanen who, last year, scored at a AHL rate better than Brown ever achieved. So who should replace him as 4th on the depth chart? Well, a lot of the Leafs remaining prospect depth is at RW(Korshkov, Bracco, Grundstrom) so in the short-medium term there should be lots of options internally.
With Hyman I don't think we need to worry too much about finding someone who can replace the player he is now because he's sort of a hybrid 3rd-4th liner(Leipsic would have been my choice but c'est la vie).
BrownRolo said:I don't know. I like Kapanen a lot but I wouldn't slot him above Brown just yet. Hyman is certainly replaceable but he fills a need.
They signed 3 and 4 year deals so don't know what you mean by keeping them around much longer. You mean trade them this season?
herman said:I'd be pretty sour if we kept Hyman beyond his contract.
Brown I can see keeping even with the RW depth. He's #3 behind Marner and Kapanen because Nylander is not going to be a winger for much longer (and can fill in LW where we are shallower if so).
Bracco is really the only RW on the Marlies at the moment who might start knocking on the door so our timeframe still looks okay. Korshkov and Grundstrom, while listed as RWs, played their off-wing (same as Kapanen, Nylander, Soshnikov) as the European ice lends itself to more lateral room and decreasing the benefit of having a strong-side stick on defending. Johnsson and Timashov are the other LWs of note coming up.
Nik the Trik said:They won't be playing on European ice over here though and both guys are pretty fair bets to spend some time with the Marlies before the NHL at which point presumably you're going to want to spend time getting them acclimated to NHL style defensive work.
Regardless, that still brings us back to the reality of the Leafs having depth at wing. Even if Brown is "only" third on the RW depth chart once Nylander moves to C at some point in the future, he's still there behind two guys who are very young and figure to be with the team for a very long time. The team simply doesn't have that sort of depth at any other position.
At some point the Leafs are going to have to, if they ever want to make trades to address areas of weakness, identify players on their roster who are good and have value and be willing to trade them. Brown fits that criteria right now in a way that very few others on the club do.
herman said:Basically everyone under the Big Three should be available if the right offer comes along (maybe even the third one). The trick is to build up their value while they cost us pennies. I think you're right that Brown is in and will be in that sweet spot of great trade value for a good stretch.