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Ducks shopping Ryan

Man. Its one thing if Burke doesn't really want him, and doesn't make a solid pitch. Its another thing if he loses out in a bidding war again ala Brad Richards.
 
RedLeaf said:
Man. Its one thing if Burke doesn't really want him, and doesn't make a solid pitch. Its another thing if he loses out in a bidding war again ala Brad Richards.
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That's sort of comparing apples to oranges. He lost out of Richards partly because, if you believe the rumours, Brad wanted to be a Ranger all along, and partly because he wouldn't open his wallet for as long as New York did - but, it's something he could have done without taking any existing talent off of the roster. If he loses out on Ryan (if he's even moved), it'll be because he doesn't want to dismantle his team to make it happen.
 
Busta Reims said:
RedLeaf said:
Man. Its one thing if Burke doesn't really want him, and doesn't make a solid pitch. Its another thing if he loses out in a bidding war again ala Brad Richards.
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That's sort of comparing apples to oranges. He lost out of Richards partly because, if you believe the rumours, Brad wanted to be a Ranger all along, and partly because he wouldn't open his wallet for as long as New York did - but, it's something he could have done without taking any existing talent off of the roster. If he loses out on Ryan (if he's even moved), it'll be because he doesn't want to dismantle his team to make it happen.
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Fair point. I just hope he gets him if he is indeed pulling out all the stops.
 
Chev-boyar-sky said:
Can't speak to the trustworthiness of the source, but this was linked from Yahoo's Puck Daddy:

http://www.queencitysports.net/the-bobby-ryan-to-buffalo-rumors-what-ive-been-told-and-what-i-think/

"Buffalo, CBJ, and Toronto are the top three teams INTERESTED in Ryan. Right now Leafs have best offer of a combination of Schenn, GRabovski,Bozak, and/or Kadri. It's a very real possibility that Anaheim is using Buffalo to up the deal from Toronto. Also remember the Burke/Anaheim connection; Burke wants the player he drafted. Right now I'd view Toronto as the front runner. Sabres have an offer of Stafford, A young NHL ready player (my guess is Ennis), and a D prospect on the table."
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The problem I'd have with the Sabres offer is Stafford is making $4 mil. If the Ducks motivation is in part to dump some dough, and I strongly suspect it is, they don't dump much if any in the proposed Sabres deal.

In the wake of the Leino deal, Miller struggling, the Sabres 17th place .563 win% and attendance off a little from last year, if Pegula were to step up and want to eat Blakes contract with it .... that might be worth the Ducks consideration but some might suggest Pegula still hasn't sobered up yet.

Same problem with Grabbo & Schenn - both included wouldn't necessarily save the Ducks much dough unless they turned around and flipped one or both. I suppose they could do that with Stafford. But the returns might diminish.
 
The one guy I'd really like from Anaheim is Getzlaf.

The Leafs might be able to snag him for nothing in the summer of 2013. It would make the Brad Richard sweepstakes look ho-hum though.
 
Leafaholic99 said:
Heard it might be: Franson, Kadri, 2012 first for Ryan and Parros
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Parros is out with a pretty serious eye injury, which calls his future effectiveness as an enforcer into question, so, he's really just a contract being moved if there's any truth to this.
 
Leafaholic99 said:
Heard it might be: Franson, Kadri, 2012 first for Ryan and Parros
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There'd have to be another deal in the works if this were the case. I don't think we have enough cap room for Ryan let alone the both of them if the only contract going the other way is Franson.
 
groundskeeper willie said:
sniper55 said:
Leafaholic99 said:
Heard it might be: Franson, Kadri, 2012 first for Ryan and Parros
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Where'd you hear that from... don't want to get excited...
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I wouldn't - regardless of where it came from.

Even if an eventual trade is close to that, it wont happen for awhile yet.
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Oh I know, I mean if that was an actual proposal, I would think Burke would take that, run, and never look back...
 
sniper55 said:
groundskeeper willie said:
sniper55 said:
Leafaholic99 said:
Heard it might be: Franson, Kadri, 2012 first for Ryan and Parros
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Where'd you hear that from... don't want to get excited...
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I wouldn't - regardless of where it came from.

Even if an eventual trade is close to that, it wont happen for awhile yet.
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Oh I know, I mean if that was an actual proposal, I would think Burke would take that, run, and never look back...
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Yea, don't take that serious at all, we all know that Burke's big moves with the Leafs, nothing has leaked out until hours before the trade. I just heard that from one of my friends that has been accurate in the past with trades.
 
Busta Reims said:
And, with the coaching change in Anaheim, this entire discussion is probably all for naught.
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Probably puts it to rest.  At least for the time being.

Saw yesterday:  http://www.rangerstribune.com/the-rangers-tribune/2011/11/rangers-being-tied-to-bobby-ryan-rumors.html

Looks like Ducks asked for Stepan, McDonagh, and a 1st from the Rangers.
 
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