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Franson, Santorelli to NSH for 1st round pick, Brendan Leipsic, Olli Jokinen

Also, as Chris Johnson just reminded me on twitter, we should all be sending massive "Thank-You" cards to Josh Gorges right now.

It should also remind us why, ultimately, Nonis should not be the GM of this team anymore.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Also, as Chris Johnson just reminded me on twitter, we should all be sending massive "Thank-You" cards to Josh Gorges right now.

It should also remind us why, ultimately, Nonis should not be the GM of this team anymore.

I agree and everything but this sort of thing is what I think Nonis is fine at. If he's just calling around the league and gauging players values and scouting amateurs then fine. I don't want him doing the rebuilding but I think he can manage the tearing down.
 
Two pending UFAs turned into a 1st and a decent prospect? I'm happy with that return.

I really liked Santorelli, but not enough to keep him. I agree with Nik; it'd be crazy not to trade him.
 
Looks like a very reasonable return to me.
As mentioned, this ups our tank game and brings back a 1st and flippable assets. I was worried one of our trade bait players would get injured.

This exodus is going better than the one under Fletcher already.
 
herman said:
Looks like a very reasonable return to me.
As mentioned, this ups our tank game and brings back a 1st and flippable assets. I was worried one of our trade bait players would get injured.

This exodus is going better than the one under Fletcher already.

Fletcher started fine, got decent value at the deadline for Antropov, Ponikarovsky Kilger.

Then Finger, Schenn*, Steen, Frogren and Van Ryn happened.

*Burke managed to salvage this, but the initial price to move up 2 spots to get Schenn was high
 
Deebo said:
herman said:
Looks like a very reasonable return to me.
As mentioned, this ups our tank game and brings back a 1st and flippable assets. I was worried one of our trade bait players would get injured.

This exodus is going better than the one under Fletcher already.

Fletcher started fine, got decent value at the deadline for Antropov, Ponikarovsky, Stempniak.

Then Finger, Schenn*, Steen, Frogren and Van Ryn happened.

*Burke managed to salvage this, but the initial price to move up 2 spots to get Schenn was high

Your timeline is a little off. They got Stempniak for Steen.
 
herman said:
Looks like a very reasonable return to me.
As mentioned, this ups our tank game and brings back a 1st and flippable assets. I was worried one of our trade bait players would get injured.

This exodus is going better than the one under Fletcher already.

Yeah. The tank-force is getting stronger and stronger.
 
I'm sure the man ultimately responsible for this disaster cannot make any deals at all without Shanahan, Hunter et al approving it.

Nonis, thank God, is not the GM of this team in responsibilities just in title.
 
lamajama said:
I'm sure the man ultimately responsible for this disaster cannot make any deals at all without Shanahan, Hunter et al approving it.

I would hope not. He's currently employed by the Calgary Flames.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Deebo said:
herman said:
Looks like a very reasonable return to me.
As mentioned, this ups our tank game and brings back a 1st and flippable assets. I was worried one of our trade bait players would get injured.

This exodus is going better than the one under Fletcher already.

Fletcher started fine, got decent value at the deadline for Antropov, Ponikarovsky, Stempniak.

Then Finger, Schenn*, Steen, Frogren and Van Ryn happened.

*Burke managed to salvage this, but the initial price to move up 2 spots to get Schenn was high

Your timeline is a little off. They got Stempniak for Steen.

Yeah, I changed it to Kilger.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Also, as Chris Johnson just reminded me on twitter, we should all be sending massive "Thank-You" cards to Josh Gorges right now.

It should also remind us why, ultimately, Nonis should not be the GM of this team anymore.

That article last week made some sense in suggesting that the mandate this past summer is different from the new mandate this month.  I can't blame Nonis for trying to cobble together a playoff team roster, if that's what he was told to do.

I like the deal just fine, even if just to get those two off the roster to further help the slide.

For the first time, I actually believe the Leafs are going in a new direction, and I'm encouraged by that.
 
Leafs get a 1st so I'm happy. Maybe they could have gotten more separately, maybe (probably) not. Either way, they got good value for two pending UFA's. Who knows, maybe they re-sign here. Not too upset about moving Santo -- the Leafs can just find the next MacArthur/Santorelli trying to rediscover themselves on a 1-year deal this summer.

And of course, this surely doesn't make the team better. Which is good. :)
 
Deebo said:
Fletcher started fine, got decent value at the deadline for Antropov, Ponikarovsky Kilger.

Then Finger, Schenn*, Steen, Frogren and Van Ryn happened.

*Burke managed to salvage this, but the initial price to move up 2 spots to get Schenn was high

Ponikarovsky and Antropov were both dealt away by Burke. Fletcher moved Kilger, Belak and Gill.
 
bustaheims said:
Deebo said:
Fletcher started fine, got decent value at the deadline for Antropov, Ponikarovsky Kilger.

Then Finger, Schenn*, Steen, Frogren and Van Ryn happened.

*Burke managed to salvage this, but the initial price to move up 2 spots to get Schenn was high

Ponikarovsky and Antropov were both dealt away by Burke. Fletcher moved Kilger, Belak and Gill.

Fletch was Steen for Stempniak too, right?
 
bustaheims said:
Deebo said:
Fletcher started fine, got decent value at the deadline for Antropov, Ponikarovsky Kilger.

Then Finger, Schenn*, Steen, Frogren and Van Ryn happened.

*Burke managed to salvage this, but the initial price to move up 2 spots to get Schenn was high

Ponikarovsky and Antropov were both dealt away by Burke. Fletcher moved Kilger, Belak and Gill.

Still, a second and a fifth for Gill was pretty good. I mean that second ended up being...Jimmy Hayes.

Dammit, Fletcher.
 
I don't think that the Leafs will get anything for Jokinen. He only has 3 goals and is overpaid. He was a salary dump. He could help with the tank though.
 
bustaheims said:
Deebo said:
Fletcher started fine, got decent value at the deadline for Antropov, Ponikarovsky Kilger.

Then Finger, Schenn*, Steen, Frogren and Van Ryn happened.

*Burke managed to salvage this, but the initial price to move up 2 spots to get Schenn was high

Ponikarovsky and Antropov were both dealt away by Burke. Fletcher moved Kilger, Belak and Gill.

I got my firesales mixed up.

Either way the point is the same, Fletcher got decent returns at the deadline but made poor moves after.
 
So it looks like we may have gotten the second coming of Darcy Tucker in the deal?

Overall...considering Franson's possible injury and his growing tendency to give the puck away in front of his own goal...probably not a bad deal.

Onward!
 
This will be Jokinen's 9th NHL team. That's a pretty remarkable number for a guy with a legitimately good NHL career. I'm pretty sure if he gets to a tenth he gets a free sandwich.
 
Frank E said:
bustaheims said:
Deebo said:
Fletcher started fine, got decent value at the deadline for Antropov, Ponikarovsky Kilger.

Then Finger, Schenn*, Steen, Frogren and Van Ryn happened.

*Burke managed to salvage this, but the initial price to move up 2 spots to get Schenn was high

Ponikarovsky and Antropov were both dealt away by Burke. Fletcher moved Kilger, Belak and Gill.

Fletch was Steen for Stempniak too, right?

Steen and Colaiacovo for Stempniak if my memory serves...
 

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