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Frederik Andersen

https://twitter.com/TheFlintor/status/948977969766088704

I see contact, and I see the slightest hints of a dive. The fine is a result of this being a second dive following a warning from the game against Carolina.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
It's embellishment, not a dive. They're different things but punished the same as far as the NHL goes.

I mean, in this situation I'd call it both.  There's no way that minimal contact should have caused Andersen to fall down like that.  He not only dove, but he embellished whatever incidental contact there was on him.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
It's embellishment, not a dive. They're different things but punished the same as far as the NHL goes.

oh I've been using diving for falls and embellishment for when the player stays upright (fake high sticks, 'slashes').
 
Zee said:
I mean, in this situation I'd call it both.  There's no way that minimal contact should have caused Andersen to fall down like that.  He not only dove, but he embellished whatever incidental contact there was on him.

You know what, you're right. I didn't look at it closely enough. That's 100% a dive.

I'm generally pro-embellishment, which is what I think Kadri does a lot. Embellishment, to me, is when a player reacts a little extra to a legitimate penalty. Like when he gets tripped and makes a big show if it. If you're going down anyways, why not make sure the ref spots it? In my heart of hearts I don't believe that should be a penalty. I know that's not exactly a very popular sentiment though.

In this case what Perron did to Andersen definitely wasn't a penalty so it's considered a dive.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Zee said:
I mean, in this situation I'd call it both.  There's no way that minimal contact should have caused Andersen to fall down like that.  He not only dove, but he embellished whatever incidental contact there was on him.

You know what, you're right. I didn't look at it closely enough. That's 100% a dive.

I'm generally pro-embellishment, which is what I think Kadri does a lot. Embellishment, to me, is when a player reacts a little extra to a legitimate penalty. Like when he gets tripped and makes a big show if it. If you're going down anyways, why not make sure the ref spots it? In my heart of hearts I don't believe that should be a penalty. I know that's not exactly a very popular sentiment though.

In this case what Perron did to Andersen definitely wasn't a penalty so it's considered a dive.

See soccer for some of the greatest sports embellishments of all time.
 
It's funny because the NHL seems good at catching this but ignores the 4-5 times someone runs him in the crease a game.  Have to nab those evil divers though, maybe once they are all gone we can start to catch those elbows to the back of the heads of players.  Or you know have concussion spotters who actually spot the concussions of Matthews and Kadri.
 
The NHL is such a joke. TML gets screw every time. He gets pushed over in the crease last game no call and now this. F U Bettman
 
https://twitter.com/AdamDeSanti/status/809791841105285121
Freddy's playing so, so well. Been really sharp. Tops in the Leauge in TOI and shots/saves yet again. Dude is taking care of himself / 95 rating in durability. I think it's finally put to rest that the big Dane is a bona-fide number one. And at $5-million for another 3 years after this, a helluva a signing/calculated risk a couple years back. Well done Lou and co.
 
https://twitter.com/TheFlintor/status/961442391822540800
https://twitter.com/TLNdc/status/961443380310888448
 
It's a shame Andersen had such a poor first 10 games. It'll probably ruin his chances of being a Vezina nominee. Right now his .922 save percentage is tied for 8th in the league (min. 22 GP). I don't think that'll be enough to put ahead of Vasilevskiy, Rinne, Rask, Hellebuyck, and maybe even Fleury if he finishes with enough games played.

But if you looked at all goalie stats since October 29th, Andersen is tied with Rask for 2nd with a .930 save percentage. The only guy ahead of him is Carter Hutton and he's played 15 less games.
 
Freddie's best quality is his durability and mental toughness combined with a high standard of play. There's ten other starters with better GAA and SV% but many play behind a better D corps. Also, Freddie leads the League in TOI, total saves and total shots. To be able to see that much rubber and quality chances without going down with an extended injury or mentally checking out for stretches puts him in the Vezina conversation in my opinion. He won't be nominated but he's top ten at least, and I think top five.
 
https://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/966153975505416192
I sure looks like Freddy really dedicated himself to raising his personal fitness level. Last year he was probably like: "ok, I'm going to be seeing a ton of rubber here as the number one and playing 65 games. I'd better get on this. I can't get winded or I'll be exposed."
I believe Naz was challenged on that and now he's flourishing.
 
disco said:
https://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/966153975505416192
I sure looks like Freddy really dedicated himself to raising his personal fitness level. Last year he was probably like: "ok, I'm going to be seeing a ton of rubber here as the number one and playing 65 games. I'd better get on this. I can't get winded or I'll be exposed."
I believe Naz was challenged on that and now he's flourishing.

It's great to see this success with Freddie and a huge part revolving around fitness.  Similar situation for Sparks in the AHL too.  I read that he was really dedicated into getting more fit in the summer and now he's quicker and less fatigued when he plays and is putting up huge numbers in the AHL. 
 
Andersen.  Vezina.  If he keeps going it could happen.  You can't say that about any Leafs goalie for decades.
 

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