GhostofPotvin29
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The use of Grabovski is baffling.
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WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:Personally I think he'll command 5 million on the open market.
I'd go as high as 3.5 to 4 on a shortened deal for him, would not give him a large long term contract which is what he'll likely look for to overlooks free agency.
He'd make an amazing 3rd line pivot, if only Randy would sway him and Grabo and give it a look.
Carlyle is killing Grabovski.
Grabovski for Luongo (I wouldn't, but maybe?)
*runs*
Oh and sitting Colborne and Grabo while Orr takes a regular shift?
Anyone who says there is hockey logic in that is a moron.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:gunnar36 said:There are many teams that would take this contract to get a centreman with explosive speed who plays fearless.TML fan said:CarltonTheBear said:TML fan said:If I'm Nonis, I'm buying out Grabovski this summer.
A month ago I'd of told you this was crazy, but if Carlyle just isn't going to play him he has to go one way or another. Benched for the final 12 minutes of the game.
I'd try to trade him. He's still a good player, but with that contract and this year's performance, I don't see any takers.
That being said, there is no way I would give up on him. He is going to be an important part of this teams hope of having any post season success.
This is sanity speaking.
Potvin29 said:The use of Grabovski is baffling.
nutman said:wow!!!!!!!!! Even after winning a big game like that, against a very good team, you guys find the bad, and its what you go on about. grabbo had a brain cramp and was sat, RC has been doing it all season, and it has got his point across. but we win and all I heare is who we get rid of next season, why?. get on the waggon and enjoy the run, stop fretting people. like it or not we have a good team, so run with it, we have suffered long enough. time to reep the rewards.
CarltonTheBear said:nutman said:wow!!!!!!!!! Even after winning a big game like that, against a very good team, you guys find the bad, and its what you go on about. grabbo had a brain cramp and was sat, RC has been doing it all season, and it has got his point across. but we win and all I heare is who we get rid of next season, why?. get on the waggon and enjoy the run, stop fretting people. like it or not we have a good team, so run with it, we have suffered long enough. time to reep the rewards.
Yes, I truely do hate it that this team is good.
Potvin29 said:I just don't get it. Komarov made a turnover that lead to a goal an Carlyle played him after. But he doesn't play Grabovski?
Potvin29 said:I just don't get it. Komarov made a turnover that lead to a goal an Carlyle played him after. But he doesn't play Grabovski?
Zee said:Potvin29 said:I just don't get it. Komarov made a turnover that lead to a goal an Carlyle played him after. But he doesn't play Grabovski?
I have no idea what they'll do with Grabovski. You can't pay a guy $5.5M and have him playing 3rd/4th line minutes. It's pretty obvious Carlyle doesn't trust him, so what are the options?
1) Nonis tells Carlyle to play Grabovski more -- highly unlikely and always a bad situation to have a GM dictating a lineup
2) Carlyle gives Grabovski more of a chance next season, if he continues to flounder you look to move him
3) Buy out / trade Grabovski either this summer or next (provided #2 is followed this will happen NEXT summer)
4) Fire Carlyle, get a coach that likes Grabovski -- won't happen while the Leafs are sporting a winning record
In any event, it has to be dealt with at some point. They have contracts coming up, notably Bozak, Kessel, Kadri to name a few. Grabovski's salary and his production isn't doing the Leafs any favors right now.
Zee said:Potvin29 said:I just don't get it. Komarov made a turnover that lead to a goal an Carlyle played him after. But he doesn't play Grabovski?
I have no idea what they'll do with Grabovski. You can't pay a guy $5.5M and have him playing 3rd/4th line minutes. It's pretty obvious Carlyle doesn't trust him, so what are the options?
1) Nonis tells Carlyle to play Grabovski more -- highly unlikely and always a bad situation to have a GM dictating a lineup
2) Carlyle gives Grabovski more of a chance next season, if he continues to flounder you look to move him
3) Buy out / trade Grabovski either this summer or next (provided #2 is followed this will happen NEXT summer)
4) Fire Carlyle, get a coach that likes Grabovski -- won't happen while the Leafs are sporting a winning record
In any event, it has to be dealt with at some point. They have contracts coming up, notably Bozak, Kessel, Kadri to name a few. Grabovski's salary and his production isn't doing the Leafs any favors right now.
Potvin29 said:He doesn't trust Grabovski but has given him the toughest assignments all season? Doesn't really make sense to me.
Rebel_1812 said:Zee said:Potvin29 said:I just don't get it. Komarov made a turnover that lead to a goal an Carlyle played him after. But he doesn't play Grabovski?
I have no idea what they'll do with Grabovski. You can't pay a guy $5.5M and have him playing 3rd/4th line minutes. It's pretty obvious Carlyle doesn't trust him, so what are the options?
1) Nonis tells Carlyle to play Grabovski more -- highly unlikely and always a bad situation to have a GM dictating a lineup
2) Carlyle gives Grabovski more of a chance next season, if he continues to flounder you look to move him
3) Buy out / trade Grabovski either this summer or next (provided #2 is followed this will happen NEXT summer)
4) Fire Carlyle, get a coach that likes Grabovski -- won't happen while the Leafs are sporting a winning record
In any event, it has to be dealt with at some point. They have contracts coming up, notably Bozak, Kessel, Kadri to name a few. Grabovski's salary and his production isn't doing the Leafs any favors right now.
That is how I'm seeing it to. If your going to trade Grabbo the we better do it in the summer. Hopefully then we can get a UFA centre to replace him.
Potvin29 said:He doesn't trust Grabovski but has given him the toughest assignments all season? Doesn't really make sense to me.
Zee said:Potvin29 said:He doesn't trust Grabovski but has given him the toughest assignments all season? Doesn't really make sense to me.
Toughest assignments? He's averaging 16 min/night, not like he's matched against the top line of the other team all the time or he'd be up over 18-20min/game.
Palmateer29 said:Rebel_1812 said:Zee said:Potvin29 said:I just don't get it. Komarov made a turnover that lead to a goal an Carlyle played him after. But he doesn't play Grabovski?
I have no idea what they'll do with Grabovski. You can't pay a guy $5.5M and have him playing 3rd/4th line minutes. It's pretty obvious Carlyle doesn't trust him, so what are the options?
1) Nonis tells Carlyle to play Grabovski more -- highly unlikely and always a bad situation to have a GM dictating a lineup
2) Carlyle gives Grabovski more of a chance next season, if he continues to flounder you look to move him
3) Buy out / trade Grabovski either this summer or next (provided #2 is followed this will happen NEXT summer)
4) Fire Carlyle, get a coach that likes Grabovski -- won't happen while the Leafs are sporting a winning record
In any event, it has to be dealt with at some point. They have contracts coming up, notably Bozak, Kessel, Kadri to name a few. Grabovski's salary and his production isn't doing the Leafs any favors right now.
That is how I'm seeing it to. If your going to trade Grabbo the we better do it in the summer. Hopefully then we can get a UFA centre to replace him.
Maybe they can package him with Gardiner and get a big center or whatever else they need. Unless Gardiner has huge patience I don't see him wanting to stick around when his contract expires after next year. Maybe he can go play with his buddy Schultz in Edmonton.
Zee said:Potvin29 said:He doesn't trust Grabovski but has given him the toughest assignments all season? Doesn't really make sense to me.
Toughest assignments? He's averaging 16 min/night, not like he's matched against the top line of the other team all the time or he'd be up over 18-20min/game.