Game 39: Rangers @ Leafs - Apr. 8, 7:00pm - Sportsnet, Fan 590

[GhostofPotvin29]

The use of Grabovski is baffling.

 

[maplesyrup]

Personally I think he'll command 5 million on the open market.

I'd go as high as 3.5 to 4 on a shortened deal for him, would not give him a large long term contract which is what he'll likely look for to overlooks free agency.

He'd make an amazing 3rd line pivot, if only Randy would sway him and Grabo and give it a look.

Carlyle is killing Grabovski.

Grabovski for Luongo (I wouldn't, but maybe?)

*runs*

Oh and sitting Colborne and Grabo while Orr takes a regular shift?

Anyone who says there is hockey logic in that is a moron.

With all the rumors swirling about Yandle at the deadline and Phoenix wanting a center, I couldn't help but think maybe Grabovski + Gardiner? Either way, I wouldn't be shocked to see Grabo moved this summer if Carlyle remains disenchanted.

 

[Rebel_1812]

If I'm Nonis, I'm buying out Grabovski this summer.

A month ago I'd of told you this was crazy, but if Carlyle just isn't going to play him he has to go one way or another. Benched for the final 12 minutes of the game.

I'd try to trade him. He's still a good player, but with that contract and this year's performance, I don't see any takers.

There are many teams that would take this contract to get a centreman with explosive speed who plays fearless.

That being said, there is no way I would give up on him. He is going to be an important part of this teams hope of having any post season success.

This is sanity speaking.

no more like biased partisanship speaking.  If Kessel was playing this bad everyone would be saying to get rid of him as well.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

The use of Grabovski is baffling.

There is certainly something that Carlyle and his assistants see about Grabovski that they don't like.
The play that led to the first goal against wasn't the smartest move by Grabovski but it wasn't the most foolish either. I was shocked that Grabovski wasn't on the ice for much of the 3rd.

 

[nutman]

wow!!!!!!!!! Even after winning a big game like that, against a very good team, you guys find the bad, and its what you go on about.  grabbo had a brain cramp and was sat, RC has been doing it all season, and it has got his point across. but we win and all I heare is who we get rid of next season, why?. get on the waggon and enjoy the run, stop fretting people. like it or not we have a good team, so run with it, we have suffered long enough. time to reep the rewards.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

wow!!!!!!!!! Even after winning a big game like that, against a very good team, you guys find the bad, and its what you go on about.  grabbo had a brain cramp and was sat, RC has been doing it all season, and it has got his point across. but we win and all I heare is who we get rid of next season, why?. get on the waggon and enjoy the run, stop fretting people. like it or not we have a good team, so run with it, we have suffered long enough. time to reep the rewards.

Yes, I truely do hate it that this team is good.

 

[nutman]

wow!!!!!!!!! Even after winning a big game like that, against a very good team, you guys find the bad, and its what you go on about.  grabbo had a brain cramp and was sat, RC has been doing it all season, and it has got his point across. but we win and all I heare is who we get rid of next season, why?. get on the waggon and enjoy the run, stop fretting people. like it or not we have a good team, so run with it, we have suffered long enough. time to reep the rewards.

Yes, I truely do hate it that this team is good.

No you don"t, TML does.  ;D

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

I just don't get it.  Komarov made a turnover that lead to a goal an Carlyle played him after.  But he doesn't play Grabovski? 

 

[Zee]

I just don't get it.  Komarov made a turnover that lead to a goal an Carlyle played him after.  But he doesn't play Grabovski?

I have no idea what they'll do with Grabovski.  You can't pay a guy $5.5M and have him playing 3rd/4th line minutes.  It's pretty obvious Carlyle doesn't trust him, so what are the options?

1) Nonis tells Carlyle to play Grabovski more -- highly unlikely and always a bad situation to have a GM dictating a lineup
2) Carlyle gives Grabovski more of a chance next season, if he continues to flounder you look to move him
3) Buy out / trade Grabovski either this summer or next (provided #2 is followed this will happen NEXT summer)
4) Fire Carlyle, get a coach that likes Grabovski -- won't happen while the Leafs are sporting a winning record

In any event, it has to be dealt with at some point.  They have contracts coming up, notably Bozak, Kessel, Kadri to name a few.  Grabovski's salary and his production isn't doing the Leafs any favors right now. 

 

[bustaheims]

I just don't get it.  Komarov made a turnover that lead to a goal an Carlyle played him after.  But he doesn't play Grabovski?

Clearly, he hates foreigners. 8)

 

[Rebel_1812]

I just don't get it.  Komarov made a turnover that lead to a goal an Carlyle played him after.  But he doesn't play Grabovski?

I have no idea what they'll do with Grabovski.  You can't pay a guy $5.5M and have him playing 3rd/4th line minutes.  It's pretty obvious Carlyle doesn't trust him, so what are the options?

1) Nonis tells Carlyle to play Grabovski more -- highly unlikely and always a bad situation to have a GM dictating a lineup
2) Carlyle gives Grabovski more of a chance next season, if he continues to flounder you look to move him
3) Buy out / trade Grabovski either this summer or next (provided #2 is followed this will happen NEXT summer)
4) Fire Carlyle, get a coach that likes Grabovski -- won't happen while the Leafs are sporting a winning record

In any event, it has to be dealt with at some point.  They have contracts coming up, notably Bozak, Kessel, Kadri to name a few.  Grabovski's salary and his production isn't doing the Leafs any favors right now.

That is how I'm seeing it to.  If your going to trade Grabbo the we better do it in the summer. Hopefully then we can get a UFA centre to replace him.

 

[Corn Flake]

I just don't get it.  Komarov made a turnover that lead to a goal an Carlyle played him after.  But he doesn't play Grabovski?

I have no idea what they'll do with Grabovski.  You can't pay a guy $5.5M and have him playing 3rd/4th line minutes.  It's pretty obvious Carlyle doesn't trust him, so what are the options?

1) Nonis tells Carlyle to play Grabovski more -- highly unlikely and always a bad situation to have a GM dictating a lineup
2) Carlyle gives Grabovski more of a chance next season, if he continues to flounder you look to move him
3) Buy out / trade Grabovski either this summer or next (provided #2 is followed this will happen NEXT summer)
4) Fire Carlyle, get a coach that likes Grabovski -- won't happen while the Leafs are sporting a winning record

In any event, it has to be dealt with at some point.  They have contracts coming up, notably Bozak, Kessel, Kadri to name a few.  Grabovski's salary and his production isn't doing the Leafs any favors right now.

A Bozak extension will tell the tale, IMO.  If they keep him, Grabbo will end up going at some point.

That said they need to give it some time and see how things play out in the playoffs and maybe even into early next year.  Grabbo is having a down  year after several good ones so he shouldn't be written off yet.

Grabbo was pretty bad last night and hasn't been great lately.  He's not doing himself any favors right now.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

He doesn't trust Grabovski but has given him the toughest assignments all season?  Doesn't really make sense to me.

 

[Corn Flake]

He doesn't trust Grabovski but has given him the toughest assignments all season?  Doesn't really make sense to me.

Has that been the case lately though? I haven't paid super attention to the last several games but from what I did see, Grabbo hasn't been out vs. top lines.  he certainly wasn't last night.

 

[Palmateer29]

I just don't get it.  Komarov made a turnover that lead to a goal an Carlyle played him after.  But he doesn't play Grabovski?

I have no idea what they'll do with Grabovski.  You can't pay a guy $5.5M and have him playing 3rd/4th line minutes.  It's pretty obvious Carlyle doesn't trust him, so what are the options?

1) Nonis tells Carlyle to play Grabovski more -- highly unlikely and always a bad situation to have a GM dictating a lineup
2) Carlyle gives Grabovski more of a chance next season, if he continues to flounder you look to move him
3) Buy out / trade Grabovski either this summer or next (provided #2 is followed this will happen NEXT summer)
4) Fire Carlyle, get a coach that likes Grabovski -- won't happen while the Leafs are sporting a winning record

In any event, it has to be dealt with at some point.  They have contracts coming up, notably Bozak, Kessel, Kadri to name a few.  Grabovski's salary and his production isn't doing the Leafs any favors right now.

That is how I'm seeing it to.  If your going to trade Grabbo the we better do it in the summer. Hopefully then we can get a UFA centre to replace him.

Maybe they can package him with Gardiner and get a big center or whatever else they need. Unless Gardiner has huge patience I don't see him wanting to stick around when his contract expires after next year. Maybe he can go play with his buddy Schultz in Edmonton.

 

[Zee]

He doesn't trust Grabovski but has given him the toughest assignments all season?  Doesn't really make sense to me.

Toughest assignments?  He's averaging 16 min/night, not like he's matched against the top line of the other team all the time or he'd be up over 18-20min/game.

 

[Corn Flake]

He doesn't trust Grabovski but has given him the toughest assignments all season?  Doesn't really make sense to me.

Toughest assignments?  He's averaging 16 min/night, not like he's matched against the top line of the other team all the time or he'd be up over 18-20min/game.

In the 3rd period last night I saw a line of Kulemin/McClement/Komarov out there vs. the Nash line.  Effectively, Jay took Grabbo's spot.

 

[Redleaf]

I just don't get it.  Komarov made a turnover that lead to a goal an Carlyle played him after.  But he doesn't play Grabovski?

I have no idea what they'll do with Grabovski.  You can't pay a guy $5.5M and have him playing 3rd/4th line minutes.  It's pretty obvious Carlyle doesn't trust him, so what are the options?

1) Nonis tells Carlyle to play Grabovski more -- highly unlikely and always a bad situation to have a GM dictating a lineup
2) Carlyle gives Grabovski more of a chance next season, if he continues to flounder you look to move him
3) Buy out / trade Grabovski either this summer or next (provided #2 is followed this will happen NEXT summer)
4) Fire Carlyle, get a coach that likes Grabovski -- won't happen while the Leafs are sporting a winning record

In any event, it has to be dealt with at some point.  They have contracts coming up, notably Bozak, Kessel, Kadri to name a few.  Grabovski's salary and his production isn't doing the Leafs any favors right now.

That is how I'm seeing it to.  If your going to trade Grabbo the we better do it in the summer. Hopefully then we can get a UFA centre to replace him.

Maybe they can package him with Gardiner and get a big center or whatever else they need. Unless Gardiner has huge patience I don't see him wanting to stick around when his contract expires after next year. Maybe he can go play with his buddy Schultz in Edmonton.

I think that might be akin to trading Kadri last year, when was playing with the Marlies. In other words, you don't do it.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

He doesn't trust Grabovski but has given him the toughest assignments all season?  Doesn't really make sense to me.

Toughest assignments?  He's averaging 16 min/night, not like he's matched against the top line of the other team all the time or he'd be up over 18-20min/game.

If you trust BTN.ca for QOC, Kulemin & Grabovski are #1 & #2: http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_statistics.php?ds=30&s=13&f1=2012_s&f2=5v5&f4=C+LW+RW&f5=TOR&c=0+1+3+5+4+6+7+8+13+14+29+30+32+33+34+45+46+63+67#

He was out there almost every Nash shift: http://www.timeonice.com/default.html?GameNumber=20578&submit=Go

That is, until he was benched.

 

[Redleaf]

Lundqvist is scared of this team.......real scared....

http://read.thestar.com/#!/article/51642c7a93e8e44a94008bef