Game 4 - Colorado Avalanche vs Toronto Maple Leafs OTL3-2

[Beowulf]

Only down one goal heading into the 3rd, it's still very possible they can pull it off.

Overall though, I think going at least 4-1 on this opening homestand is essential considering the quality of the competition.

 

[pnjunction]

What's worrying is that the 3 teams we held our sh*t together against are sitting in the basement of the league right now (after 4-5 games but still).  Now against a top-10 opponent we are looking way too much like last year's team.

Our faceoff advantage evaporated this game, maybe the guys just weren't up to it tonight.

 

[TML fan]

man both those goals were just bad on Reimers part, I'm starting to worry

The last 3 goals he's let in have been pretty odourous...

The Leafs had to bury their earlier chances and failed to. Reimer's not been great this game, but no one has outside of Kessel.

What does any of that have to do with Reimer letting in bad goals?

It's only two goals. Jesus it's not like it's 8-1. I'm saying these things happen, your goaltender isn't going to play 100% all the time and the team has to be ready to sometimes play well for the goaltender.

Reimer can shut the door the rest of the game and the team will lose more for an inept powerplay and bone dry offense rather than Reimer letting in two goals, bad goals or not.

So, what you're really saying is that I'm not allowed to comment on Reimer's goaltending, and that you incorrectly decided that I have blamed Reimer for the Leafs losing a game they haven't even lost yet.

I think I've been watching and playing hockey long enough to know that you're probably not going to win a lot of games if you only score 1 goal.

 

[TML fan]

man both those goals were just bad on Reimers part, I'm starting to worry

The last 3 goals he's let in have been pretty odourous...

The Leafs had to bury their earlier chances and failed to. Reimer's not been great this game, but no one has outside of Kessel.

What does any of that have to do with Reimer letting in bad goals?

I think the point is: it's a team sport.

Yeah, but there's only one goalie.

True. And he's at a distinct disadvantage when it comes to scoring the 2+ goals we need to win this game.

I agree. That doesn't change the fact that he let in two bad goals.

 

[Tigger]

man both those goals were just bad on Reimers part, I'm starting to worry

The last 3 goals he's let in have been pretty odourous...

The Leafs had to bury their earlier chances and failed to. Reimer's not been great this game, but no one has outside of Kessel.

What does any of that have to do with Reimer letting in bad goals?

I think the point is: it's a team sport.

...and it's a long season.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

What's worrying is that the 3 teams we held our sh*t together against are sitting in the basement of the league right now (after 4-5 games but still).  Now against a top-10 opponent we are looking way too much like last year's team.

Our faceoff advantage evaporated this game, maybe the guys just weren't up to it tonight.

It's only 2-1, it's a close game and the Avs are a strong fore-checking team that's very fast. Any team is going to have more difficulties beating them. There are some mistakes, but I don't think it's a bad game really for the Leafs.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

What's worrying is that the 3 teams we held our sh*t together against are sitting in the basement of the league right now (after 4-5 games but still).  Now against a top-10 opponent we are looking way too much like last year's team.

We're down by 1 goal, and it could easily be the other way around (see Kulemin batting the puck off the post, etc; Reimer doesn't let in one of those goals).

You're making it sound like they're mopping the floor with us.  We're not going to win every game, it's going to still be tough pretty much every night (the parity in the league), and being down 2-1 in a game that has been pretty even so far is nothing to worry about, in my opinion.

We won't win every game, but when we do lose, there's no point in freaking out and saying it is like last year's team or whatever, especially this early in the season.  This team was always going to lose, and just because they do, all it means is they are like every other team.  Even Detroit will lose.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Rogers, you and I have had some rough patches in the past, but this on-demand website is pretty cool of you. Especially since I just lost my Sportsnet channel from Cogeco and can't bother to get it back.

 

[Tigger]

I think we can all agree that this team will go nowhere unless they get some kind of PP going.  Now, the fact that we haven't had a good one ever since Wilson has been the coach is pure coincidence.

Connolly and Kadri would both help on the PP. The should have Kessel on the left side with Phanuef on the right point and Liles on the left. Second PP should be Frattin where Kessel is with Franson of left and Gunner on right.

A good Pk would have a mitigating affect, no?

 

[4th Liner]

Come on Giggy - cough it up in the 3rd

 

[pnjunction]

What's worrying is that the 3 teams we held our sh*t together against are sitting in the basement of the league right now (after 4-5 games but still).  Now against a top-10 opponent we are looking way too much like last year's team.

Our faceoff advantage evaporated this game, maybe the guys just weren't up to it tonight.

It's only 2-1, it's a close game and the Avs are a strong fore-checking team that's very fast. Any team is going to have more difficulties beating them. There are some mistakes, but I don't think it's a bad game really for the Leafs.

Well I didn't want to say too much before the game is over, but I'm still optimistic about the season.  Connolly might rescue the PP, the D can certainly get better (Komi looks flat again, I might like to see Gardiner in and him in the press box next game), and Reimer hasn't been at his best tonight.

Also the 2nd line has to come out of cryogenic storage eventually, unless Kulemin and MacArthur had career years, then we are screwed.

 

[Bender]

man both those goals were just bad on Reimers part, I'm starting to worry

The last 3 goals he's let in have been pretty odourous...

The Leafs had to bury their earlier chances and failed to. Reimer's not been great this game, but no one has outside of Kessel.

What does any of that have to do with Reimer letting in bad goals?

I think the point is: it's a team sport.

Yeah, but there's only one goalie.

True. And he's at a distinct disadvantage when it comes to scoring the 2+ goals we need to win this game.

I agree. That doesn't change the fact that he let in two bad goals.

I'd say one bad goal. And Jiggy let in one bad goal. Nullify both and you've got a 1-0 game.

 

[Frank E]

What's worrying is that the 3 teams we held our sh*t together against are sitting in the basement of the league right now (after 4-5 games but still).  Now against a top-10 opponent we are looking way too much like last year's team.

We're down by 1 goal, and it could easily be the other way around (see Kulemin batting the puck off the post, etc; Reimer doesn't let in one of those goals).

You're making it sound like they're mopping the floor with us.  We're not going to win every game, it's going to still be tough pretty much every night (the parity in the league), and being down 2-1 in a game that has been pretty even so far is nothing to worry about, in my opinion.

We won't win every game, but when we do lose, there's no point in freaking out and saying it is like last year's team or whatever, especially this early in the season.  This team was always going to lose, and just because they do, all it means is they are like every other team.  Even Detroit will lose.

True, but if that PP doesn't get better soon, they won't win enough games, Reimer awesome or average.

 

[TML fan]

man both those goals were just bad on Reimers part, I'm starting to worry

The last 3 goals he's let in have been pretty odourous...

The Leafs had to bury their earlier chances and failed to. Reimer's not been great this game, but no one has outside of Kessel.

What does any of that have to do with Reimer letting in bad goals?

I think the point is: it's a team sport.

Yeah, but there's only one goalie.

True. And he's at a distinct disadvantage when it comes to scoring the 2+ goals we need to win this game.

I agree. That doesn't change the fact that he let in two bad goals.

I'd say one bad goal. And Jiggy let in one bad goal. Nullify both and you've got a 1-0 game.

Yeah, I don't think so. Kessel will snipe goals like that 20+ times a year.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

Also the 2nd line has to come out of cryogenic storage eventually, unless Kulemin and MacArthur had career years, then we are screwed.

They're getting way more chances tonight. I think it's only a matter of time, before Grabbo and Kulemin start filling the net.

 

[Tigger]

That doesn't change the fact that he let in two bad goals.

The third doesn't exist for us yet but yes, two bad goals.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

What's worrying is that the 3 teams we held our sh*t together against are sitting in the basement of the league right now (after 4-5 games but still).  Now against a top-10 opponent we are looking way too much like last year's team.

We're down by 1 goal, and it could easily be the other way around (see Kulemin batting the puck off the post, etc; Reimer doesn't let in one of those goals).

You're making it sound like they're mopping the floor with us.  We're not going to win every game, it's going to still be tough pretty much every night (the parity in the league), and being down 2-1 in a game that has been pretty even so far is nothing to worry about, in my opinion.

We won't win every game, but when we do lose, there's no point in freaking out and saying it is like last year's team or whatever, especially this early in the season.  This team was always going to lose, and just because they do, all it means is they are like every other team.  Even Detroit will lose.

True, but if that PP doesn't get better soon, they won't win enough games, Reimer awesome or average.

Yes, things are not perfect.

 

[Strangelove]

Liles ain't exactly Kaberle.  That's abudantly clear.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I don't understand why they aren't utilizing the patented 'pass it to Kessel' gameplan here.

 

[pnjunction]

OK I'm sorry but that zig-zagging through the neutral zone with sloppy passes was just sad