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Game 60. Devs versus Leavs. Criticality.

46.11 Instigator - An instigator of an altercation shall be a player who by his actions or demeanor demonstrates any/some of the following criteria: distance traveled; gloves off first; first punch thrown; menacing attitude or posture; verbal instigation or threats; conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season.
 
Zee said:
Man McLean is an idiot.

"Dion threw the first punch!"

Clarkson comes off the bench for the sole reason of challenging him to a fight, but since he didn't throw the first punch then it's not an instigator.

The NHL is such a joke at times.

MacLean is just wrong, the rulebook says:

46.11 Instigator - An instigator of an altercation shall be a player who by his actions or demeanor demonstrates any/some of the following criteria: distance traveled; gloves off first; first punch thrown; menacing attitude or posture; verbal instigation or threats; conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season.

I'd say he hit at least 4 of those criteria.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
46.11 Instigator - An instigator of an altercation shall be a player who by his actions or demeanor demonstrates any/some of the following criteria: distance traveled; gloves off first; first punch thrown; menacing attitude or posture; verbal instigation or threats; conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season.

I'd say verbal instigation was there too, he was most likely chirping while throwing those cross checks.
 
Tigger said:
leafplasma said:
I don't consider Phaneuf much of a fighter but I would have to say he won that bout with Clarkson.

I was a little worried for him at the end, looked like he hit his face on the ice but yeah, he won that one.

Yep and he was gassed after finishing a shift.  Clarkson was rested coming off the bench.
 
Deebo said:
CarltonTheBear said:
46.11 Instigator - An instigator of an altercation shall be a player who by his actions or demeanor demonstrates any/some of the following criteria: distance traveled; gloves off first; first punch thrown; menacing attitude or posture; verbal instigation or threats; conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season.

I'd say verbal instigation was there too, he was most likely chirping while throwing those cross checks.

Probably. Didn't look like there was a ref in sight to hear them though.
 
leafplasma said:
Tigger said:
leafplasma said:
I don't consider Phaneuf much of a fighter but I would have to say he won that bout with Clarkson.

I was a little worried for him at the end, looked like he hit his face on the ice but yeah, he won that one.

Yep and he was gassed after finishing a shift.  Clarkson was rested coming off the bench.

I dunno, I'd say it was pretty even. I've never seen Clarkson skate that fast to get to Phaneuf before.
 
Deebo said:
Zee said:
Man McLean is an idiot.

"Dion threw the first punch!"

Clarkson comes off the bench for the sole reason of challenging him to a fight, but since he didn't throw the first punch then it's not an instigator.

The NHL is such a joke at times.

MacLean is just wrong, the rulebook says:

46.11 Instigator - An instigator of an altercation shall be a player who by his actions or demeanor demonstrates any/some of the following criteria: distance traveled; gloves off first; first punch thrown; menacing attitude or posture; verbal instigation or threats; conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season.

I'd say he hit at least 4 of those criteria.

Yes MacLean and the refs were wrong.  If that isn't instigating what is?
 
Wow, just man handled those last few minutes.

Somethings seriously wrong with this group.  I think the trade deadline is killing them.
 
"Lots of rumours about him [Parise] wanting to go back to Minnesota"

Yup, never actually heart that one. I understand the connection, but never heard it.
 
Obviously not, but you hear all the time that rumours sometimes get to you... The whole leaf team has been rumoured to go the last month.
 
Erndog said:
Obviously not, but you hear all the time that rumours sometimes get to you... The whole leaf team has been rumoured to go the last month.

From what you hear, it's a pretty tight-knit group too.
 

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