General Leafs Talk v2.0

[GhostofPotvin29]

Hard to say.  As devil's advocate, it looks like the head was already away from where Lupul attempted to hit Sedin and Lupul was just trying to at least connect with his shoulder or some piece of him.  Still would be elbowing to the body, but not headhunting.

 

[freer]

http://blogs.theprovince.com/2013/11/03/the-attempted-assassination-of-henrik-sedin/

just read a crappy article on Lupul. What a load of crap.

Why is it a load of crap. Lupul tried to take his head off.

Why?
Because nothing in article about Bolland's injury. IMO anyone lifting their feet off the ice, like Kassian or even Cook, is out to injure. I played contact hockey for ten years so I can say that

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

http://blogs.theprovince.com/2013/11/03/the-attempted-assassination-of-henrik-sedin/

just read a crappy article on Lupul. What a load of crap.

Why is it a load of crap. Lupul tried to take his head off.

Why?
Because nothing in article about Bolland's injury. IMO anyone lifting their feet off the ice, like Kassian or even Cook, is out to injure. I played contact hockey for ten years so I can say that

It's been mentioned before, Aaron Ward on TSN did a segment showing that lifting the feet off the ice to pin a player to the boards is common practice.  These are just freak accidents that happen due to the speed of the game, nothing more.

 

[lamajama]

I find it hard to believe that there are no UFA's out there that could be signed to a 2 way deal that could fill the gap in on a temp basis.

 

[Arn]

In terms of trades, I wonder about Philly.  They have good center depth and need some better D.  Now may be the time to trade Franson as we may not be able to afford him next year.  Couturier or Schenn the younger may be too much to ask.  I wonder about some of their prospects like Laughton.  I dont really know how good he is but I think he is on the brink of making their team.

Brayden Schenn?.. 

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Hard to say.  As devil's advocate, it looks like the head was already away from where Lupul attempted to hit Sedin and Lupul was just trying to at least connect with his shoulder or some piece of him.  Still would be elbowing to the body, but not headhunting.

That's just plain bias on your part Potvin. Lupul clearly threw his shoulder out in an attempt to connect with Sedin....It's easy to say that in slow motion you can see that the head was already away, but in full speed, it's a little tougher to distinguish.

What I don't get is why Lupul would attack like that but to try and destroy Sedin. It was a terrible defensive play.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

http://blogs.theprovince.com/2013/11/03/the-attempted-assassination-of-henrik-sedin/

just read a crappy article on Lupul. What a load of crap.

Why is it a load of crap. Lupul tried to take his head off.

I played contact hockey for ten years so I can say that

Well I guess I stand corrected...Man, my apologies.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Hard to say.  As devil's advocate, it looks like the head was already away from where Lupul attempted to hit Sedin and Lupul was just trying to at least connect with his shoulder or some piece of him.  Still would be elbowing to the body, but not headhunting.

but in full speed, it's a little tougher to distinguish.

Which also means it's more difficult to establish intent on a play that didn't actually occur, happening quickly.

But like I said, I was advocating for the devil.

 

[Tigger]

It seems like Lupul was going first for a possible dish off then for the shoulder and missed.

Assassination? Uh, no.

 

[Highlander]

Evil, Potvin, Evil?..LOL

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

It seems like Lupul was going first for a possible dish off then for the shoulder and missed.

Assassination? Uh, no.

As you may or may not know, his title is a cheeky reference to the movie "The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford".  Title aside, the article isn't all that bad, in my opinion.  Whatever Lupul's intent, I'm sure glad his elbow didn't connect with Sedin's head, because it would have been a multiple-game suspension for sure, and very likely a nasty concussion for Sedin.

 

[Arn]

Just watching the Marlies game in Utica. Jerred Smithson has had a good first period and Greg McKegg is playing. Would either of them be worth a shot or a possibility for a call up? I looked Smithson up and he has plenty of NHL experience.

Both would be bottom 6 players.

 

[Hampreacher]

How about Liles at center. If I remember right Red Kelly converted from defense to Center in the mid to late 60's. Worth a try?

 

[Joe S.]

 

[mr grieves]

How about Liles at center. If I remember right Red Kelly converted from defense to Center in the mid to late 60's. Worth a try?

Yeah. It's because ideas like these are worth entertaining that people were uncomfortable with dumping Colborne, buying out Grabovski, or signing a cheaper bunch of centers only to invest those savings in wing, where the team wasn't frightfully shallow.

The next few weeks will, if nothing else, really test the proposition that you don't need to build around centers. This team is two short and doesn't have any you'd want anywhere near the top 6 in the system. 

 

[Kin]

The next few weeks will, if nothing else, really test the proposition that you don't need to build around centers. This team is two short and doesn't have any you'd want anywhere near the top 6 in the system.

How does that figure? No matter who the centers on a team are if two of them get hurt there aren't going to be easy replacements. Obviously depth is a good thing but  depth is a separate issue from who a team builds around.

 

[MetalRaven]

http://blogs.theprovince.com/2013/11/03/the-attempted-assassination-of-henrik-sedin/

just read a crappy article on Lupul. What a load of crap.

I wonder if he paid for or got permission to use the wwe clip at the end....I hear they are quite litigious

 

[mr grieves]

The next few weeks will, if nothing else, really test the proposition that you don't need to build around centers. This team is two short and doesn't have any you'd want anywhere near the top 6 in the system.

How does that figure? No matter who the centers on a team are if two of them get hurt there aren't going to be easy replacements. Obviously depth is a good thing but  depth is a separate issue from who a team builds around.

Well, I misspoke. Not who you build around, but what you build with. It's not news that plenty on this board and elsewhere weren't sure what Nonis was doing when he went up to the cap building a team with pricey wingers, redundant punchers, and only four centers. We'll see how it goes.

 

[Kin]

Well, I misspoke. Not who you build around, but what you build with. It's not news that plenty on this board and elsewhere weren't sure what Nonis was doing when he went up to the cap building a team with pricey wingers, redundant punchers, and only four centers. We'll see how it goes.

Even still, while having Colborne right now would be nice(although it's not like Colborne is a known quantity) there's only so much a team can or will devote to contingencies in case of getting walloped with injuries at a particular position.

And still it's separate from the question of who the centers are. Even if you preferred Grabo and Weiss, for instance, to Bozak and Bolland the team is in no better position if those two are on the team and subsequently get hurt.

 

[mr grieves]

Well, I misspoke. Not who you build around, but what you build with. It's not news that plenty on this board and elsewhere weren't sure what Nonis was doing when he went up to the cap building a team with pricey wingers, redundant punchers, and only four centers. We'll see how it goes.

Even still, while having Colborne right now would be nice(although it's not like Colborne is a known quantity) there's only so much a team can or will devote to contingencies in case of getting walloped with injuries at a particular position.

And still it's separate from the question of who the centers are. Even if you preferred Grabo and Weiss, for instance, to Bozak and Bolland the team is in no better position if those two are on the team and subsequently get hurt.

Sure, losing two of one's top-three centers is always going to leave a team in a rough spot. But one of the advantages of going with Bolland and Bozak instead of Weiss and Grabovski is that you should have a spare center in there somewhere should injuries happen. That the centers weren't dramatically upgraded, though they were got for cheaper, and still there's no depth at center makes the team's position worse now than it otherwise might've been.