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Idiocracy

Highlander said:
What should be most interesting is to see how much of the swamp he actually is allowed to drain. To those who have said he is there to enrich himself and his cronies, I think this is false. He has said he will take $1 a year to do the job, wants to fly in his own plane and save hundreds of millions on a new Air Force 1 (actually 2 planes). 
His other advisors are already so wealthy they don't need any extra. Actually most are involved in heavy philanthropy.
In any case he is there for better or worse and hopefully he will do some good things.

Because never in the history of time has a rich man ever said "you know what?  I'd like to be even richer."

The fact that he refused to put his businesses in a blind trust, and instead leave it with his kids (with whom he will have regular communication with) shows where his vested interests are.

That said, I'm still fairly convinced that Trump just wanted the title of President, and doesn't actually want to do the work of the president.  I'm sure Pence will be doing a lot of the legwork - whether that's even worse is also up for debate...
 
Mike "Gay Conversion Therapy" Pence, I'm pretty sure his biggest fear is that dicks are actually delicious, expect him to dive on one like it's a live grenade before the end of his time as VP.

I'm sure when they put homophobes on the Supreme Court it'll be all gravy.

The attorney general who hates weed too, what a winner.
 
Highlander said:
To those who have said he is there to enrich himself and his cronies, I think this is false. He has said he will take $1 a year to do the job, wants to fly in his own plane and save hundreds of millions on a new Air Force 1 (actually 2 planes). 
His other advisors are already so wealthy they don't need any extra. Actually most are involved in heavy philanthropy.
In any case he is there for better or worse and hopefully he will do some good things.

If his plans didn't include changes to the tax code that will save him, his advisors, and other members of his cabinet a combined $17B, you might have had a point.
 
The President's plane, which is not actually "Air Force 1" as that's the designation given to any plane the President is on, is expensive precisely because it's not like other planes. Not only is it built to be incredibly hard to shoot down but it's also capable of functioning as a mobile command center in catastrophic events.

Saying he wants to use his own plane is just more evidence of his complete and total lack of understanding of what the job of President actually entails.
 
On the other hand, if he insists on being on a plane incapable of being a mobile command center, maybe that's in everyone's best interests.
 
bustaheims said:
Highlander said:
To those who have said he is there to enrich himself and his cronies, I think this is false. He has said he will take $1 a year to do the job, wants to fly in his own plane and save hundreds of millions on a new Air Force 1 (actually 2 planes). 
His other advisors are already so wealthy they don't need any extra. Actually most are involved in heavy philanthropy.
In any case he is there for better or worse and hopefully he will do some good things.

If his plans didn't include changes to the tax code that will save him, his advisors, and other members of his cabinet a combined $17B, you might have had a point.

+1

His decision to not take a salary is a totally transparent ploy to make him look magnanimous while he takes from other sources that make him significantly more money but create conflicts of interest.  If he was interested in doing the right thing financially, he would sell his assets and put them in a blind trust.
 
as any father who has built his own business knows, they live to hand the business to the kidz and let them run the show. 
 
Then don't run for President. The appearance of impartiality in government is more important than any one person's selfish desires.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Then don't run for President. The appearance of impartiality in government is more important than any one person's selfish desires.

Grifter Donald talking about cutting the CIA because they were mean to Putin.  The guy needs to be shot before he causes much bigger international problems.
 
Highlander said:
as any father who has built his own business knows, they live to hand the business to the kidz and let them run the show.

A normal father, sure. An egomaniac? Not so much. Trump's not handing the business to his kids in any meaningful way. He's temporarily ceding "official" control until he's no longer in office.
 
L K said:
The guy needs to be shot before he causes much bigger international problems.

That's probably little too far (I recognize that you're being hyperbolic), but it's definitely a concern. Also, barring an extremely unlikely announcement that he's actually placed all his holdings in a true blind trust or sold them/legitimately divested himself from them (not just placing his children in charge), there's going be dozens and dozens of lawsuits related to his many conflicts of interest filed within hours of his inauguration.
 
There is a slight irony in reading people who are primarily from Ontario bashing someone's voting choice.
 
You have the 2nd highest debt for anything but a Country in the World and your power costs are skyrocketing.  It's about more than silly name calling.  Your Province is a mess and our Country is heading downhill, notice any similarities in both Govts?
 
Oh and I guess you missed the Election??  That's not how Dictators usually get to power.
louisstamos said:
Bates said:
There is a slight irony in reading people who are primarily from Ontario bashing someone's voting choice.

Irony?

Do we have a dictator?
 
I'm just curious as to why simply because I'm from Ontario I'm not allowed to criticize any other candidate or leader, be it for their personality or their policies?

Also, I didn't vote Wynne either.

edit: I was also living in Toronto for the Rob Ford era.  We truly live in the era of Populism politics.  It doesn't mean that anyone is above criticism.
 
I don't recall saying you weren't allowed.  I simply stated that's it's kinda ironic, which it is.  It's like pointing out how bad the Avs defence is as a Leaf fan, it's ironic.
louisstamos said:
I'm just curious as to why simply because I'm Ontario I'm not allowed to criticize any other candidate or leader, be it for their personality or their policies?

Also, I didn't vote Wynne either.
 
louisstamos said:
I'm just curious as to why simply because I'm from Ontario I'm not allowed to criticize any other candidate or leader, be it for their personality or their policies?

Also, I didn't vote Wynne either.

It's it obvious? You live in Ontario. The country is in tatters because of you.
 
Bates said:
I don't recall saying you weren't allowed.  I simply stated that's it's kinda ironic, which it is.  It's like pointing out how bad the Avs defence is as a Leaf fan, it's ironic.

Okay?  But using your metaphor - knowing that I'm a Leafs fan, and knowing the Leafs defense is bad, how does that absolve someone from mentioning that the Avs defense is *also* bad?  Isn't that just telling it like it is?  Especially when the discussion is ABOUT the Avs and/or their defense?

That's like me seeing a helicopter in a tree outside my house, and saying "wow, that's not supposed to happen," and someone saying to me "yeah, but didn't you get into a car accident once?  Oh, the irony!"

edit: a not-at-fault accident at that, since...you know...I never voted for Wynne. :P
 
Again it's certainly fine to point and laugh. But as an outsider it's ironic.  Sorry about the Govt you didn't vote for. 
louisstamos said:
Bates said:
I don't recall saying you weren't allowed.  I simply stated that's it's kinda ironic, which it is.  It's like pointing out how bad the Avs defence is as a Leaf fan, it's ironic.

Okay?  But using your metaphor - knowing that I'm a Leafs fan, and knowing the Leafs defense is bad, how does that absolve someone from mentioning that the Avs defense is *also* bad?  Isn't that just telling it like it is?  Especially when the discussion is ABOUT the Avs and/or their defense?

That's like me seeing a helicopter in a tree outside my house, and saying "wow, that's not supposed to happen," and someone saying to me "yeah, but didn't you get into a car accident once?  Oh, the irony!"

edit: a not-at-fault accident at that, since...you know...I never voted for Wynne. :P
 

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