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Idiocracy

mr grieves said:
bustaheims said:
Dappleganger said:
I'm actually worried that Hillary will be such an unappealing candidate Trump might win this.
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I honestly don't know. I'm concerned about that, but, at the same time, I also see a very real possibility that Trump has alienated a significant enough portion of Republican voters to even things out. I also think the mere possibility that Trump could win might mobilize enough people to vote for Clinton solely to keep him out of office. And, while I don't think Hillary will be a particularly inspiring president, I don't think she'll be a particularly detrimental one, either. In fact, other than being the first female president, I expect she'll fit nicely into this group:
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Republicans seem to be falling into line. Might be a feature of that party, or maybe it's because the Democrats nominated the one name in national party that unites the opposing party into a ball of fury. 

I'm most concerned that the race will play out as a repeat of Martha Coakley vs. Scott Brown in 2010. For non-Americans: a special Senate election wherein a competent but uncharismatic and message-less neoliberal technocrat lost to a faux populist bully who offered nothing tangible to the electorate but, by speaking to (stoking) their cultural resentment of elites, managed to win Ted freaking Kennedy's seat! It Can't Happen Here, we all thought. And then it did.

Brown wasn't nearly the buffoon that Trump is, but he also didn't hit the right-wing nationalist notes as effectively.
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And that seems to be about how it played out.
 
It's been 2 weeks now. I think that every single day something has happened that me me think this is going to be as big of a catastrophe as I feared. From Trump blatantly lying on his twitter feed and having his followers and even some news people blindly believing it, to his multiple appointments of people who are clearly white nationalists/racists, to all the hate-crimes that have occurred in his name, to the public rise of the Neo-Nazi's/"alt-right" in the US, and now there's been multiple instances of Trump using the position of PEOTUS to benefit his fortune/company/personal interests.

He's going to go down as the greatest con-man in the history of the world.
 
It's been a brutal 2 weeks with Don the con.. While some of followers carry out hate acts he is too concerned with SNL and Hamilton the play
 
CarltonTheBear said:
It's been 2 weeks now. I think that every single day something has happened that me me think this is going to be as big of a catastrophe as I feared. From Trump blatantly lying on his twitter feed and having his followers and even some news people blindly believing it, to his multiple appointments of people who are clearly white nationalists/racists, to all the hate-crimes that have occurred in his name, to the public rise of the Neo-Nazi's/"alt-right" in the US, and now there's been multiple instances of Trump using the position of PEOTUS to benefit his fortune/company/personal interests.

He's going to go down as the greatest con-man in the history of the world.
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It almost seems like commonplace now, but the way he continues to lie and throw accusations on Twitter is what concerns me as much as anything.  I thought that at the VERY least after winning that the twitter stuff would stop.  It's incredibly un-Presidential.
 
The way the media is letting these guys hide behind terms like "alt-right" and "white nationalists" drives me nuts. These are such watered down terms for what these jerks really are. They're neo-Nazis, white supremacists, racists, bigots, etc. The media needs to call them out for what they are!
 
bustaheims said:
The way the media is letting these guys hide behind terms like "alt-right" and "white nationalists" drives me nuts. These are such watered down terms for what these jerks really are. They're neo-Nazis, white supremacists, racists, bigots, etc. The media needs to call them out for what they are!
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I'm assuming that you saw this horsecrap:

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I wonder if the Conservatives are going to hold 50 Benghazi level tribunals against Trump like they did with Hillary.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Yeah, that was pretty deplorable too.
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Yup. I mean, that's something that's basically straight out of the Hitler handbook. Like, dehumanizing Jews was practically his raison d'?tre.
 
The Alt-Right needs to be branded differently.  Think progress is trying to do its part:

https://thinkprogress.org/thinkprogress-alt-right-policy-b04fd141d8d4#.qzgaou32e
 
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/307345-report-trump-building-project-makes-headway-after-call-with-argentinian

By the end of all of this Trump is finally going to be as rich as he always claimed to be.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/307345-report-trump-building-project-makes-headway-after-call-with-argentinian

By the end of all of this Trump is finally going to be as rich as he always claimed to be.
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Nah. Once he officially takes office, he's going to be sued into oblivion. If there's even a hint of his involvement with any of his businesses, and if they're even considered for government contracts or are seen as getting preferable treatment by foreign governments, he'll be in violation of a number of different laws and regulations.
 
Environment be d*#med:

In the beginning....
Donald J. Trump  @realDonaldTrump
The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.
2:15 PM - 6 Nov 2012

Then...
Mike Grynbaum  @grynbaum
Tom Friedman asks if Trump will withdraw from climate change accords. Trump: ?I?m looking at it very closely. I have an open mind to it."
1:17 PM - 22 Nov 2016

And...
Mike Grynbaum  @grynbaum
On climate change, Trump says he is also thinking about "how much it will cost our companies? & the effect on American competitiveness.
1:21 PM - 22 Nov 2016

Now...
Mike Grynbaum  @grynbaum
Does Trump think human activity is linked to climate change? ?I think there is some connectivity. Some, something. It depends on how much."
1:20 PM - 22 Nov 2016


http://gizmodo.com/donald-trump-maybe-humans-did-the-climate-change-after-1789270591?utm_source=taboola
 
Trump-Canada connection:  How Trump helped elevate a Canadian ice-rink making company to international status (begining with the then decrepit New York's Central Park ice-skating rink -- Wolfman Rink). 
Vegas Golden Knights, here they come...

In his 1987 memoir, "The Art of the Deal", Trump wrote:
"Since I myself knew absolutely nothing about building rinks, I set out to find the best skating-rink builder I could," he wrote. "Logic suggested the best place to look was Canada."

More :
https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/how-donald-trump-helped-build-canadas-ice-rink-empire/article33430900/
 
What should be most interesting is to see how much of the swamp he actually is allowed to drain. To those who have said he is there to enrich himself and his cronies, I think this is false. He has said he will take $1 a year to do the job, wants to fly in his own plane and save hundreds of millions on a new Air Force 1 (actually 2 planes). 
His other advisors are already so wealthy they don't need any extra. Actually most are involved in heavy philanthropy.
In any case he is there for better or worse and hopefully he will do some good things.
 
Highlander said:
What should be most interesting is to see how much of the swamp he actually is allowed to drain. To those who have said he is there to enrich himself and his cronies, I think this is false. He has said he will take $1 a year to do the job, wants to fly in his own plane and save hundreds of millions on a new Air Force 1 (actually 2 planes). 
His other advisors are already so wealthy they don't need any extra. Actually most are involved in heavy philanthropy.
In any case he is there for better or worse and hopefully he will do some good things.
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I've got a fantastic line of chocolate tea kettles that I'm certain you're going to love.
 
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