Jets @ Leafs - Mar. 9th, 7:00pm - TSN4, Fan 590

[wnc096]

Now Keefe knows what it's like to lose 3 in a row.

If the Leafs forwards couldn't score 4 or more goals every game, there'll be more coming with Andersen in net.

Last goal was on him.  We all know you only show up to bash Andersen, but please explain how the middle 2 were his fault.  Especially the second goal, which really turned the tide for WPG.

Save percentage .826 says it all.

Yet somehow 12-5-2?

Andersen only won maybe 2 of those because of his play

Nah.  That?s not true.

 

[Zee]

Now Keefe knows what it's like to lose 3 in a row.

If the Leafs forwards couldn't score 4 or more goals every game, there'll be more coming with Andersen in net.

Last goal was on him.  We all know you only show up to bash Andersen, but please explain how the middle 2 were his fault.  Especially the second goal, which really turned the tide for WPG.

Save percentage .826 says it all.

Yet somehow 12-5-2?

Andersen only won maybe 2 of those because of his play

Nah.  That?s not true.

He's got a .903% on the season. He's actually an issue. Leafs aren't going to get over the top with this guy. Probably held onto him 1 year too long like Babcock. Should have done everything to move him this past summer but couldn't get a deal I guess

 

[wnc096]

Now Keefe knows what it's like to lose 3 in a row.

If the Leafs forwards couldn't score 4 or more goals every game, there'll be more coming with Andersen in net.

Last goal was on him.  We all know you only show up to bash Andersen, but please explain how the middle 2 were his fault.  Especially the second goal, which really turned the tide for WPG.

Save percentage .826 says it all.

Yet somehow 12-5-2?

Andersen only won maybe 2 of those because of his play

Nah.  That?s not true.

He's got a .903% on the season. He's actually an issue. Leafs aren't going to get over the top with this guy. Probably held onto him 1 year too long like Babcock. Should have done everything to move him this past summer but couldn't get a deal I guess

I dunno all Canadian teams goalie stats are trash this year.  How many wins should he have in 19 starts if he was playing ?well??

 

[BrownRolo]

I find it strange how so many people on here refuse to admit Andersen has been below average this season.

The Leafs defensively are much improved. The numbers with the two backups show that.

Campbell needs to get healthy and the Leafs need to give him a long shot as a starter.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/mostlyleafies/status/1369476856508977152
Matthews or Tavares would've buried this, mostly because it's a good pass to spring a player but an excellent pass for a left shot.

 

[Bender]

Now Keefe knows what it's like to lose 3 in a row.

If the Leafs forwards couldn't score 4 or more goals every game, there'll be more coming with Andersen in net.

Last goal was on him.  We all know you only show up to bash Andersen, but please explain how the middle 2 were his fault.  Especially the second goal, which really turned the tide for WPG.

Save percentage .826 says it all.

Yet somehow 12-5-2?

Andersen only won maybe 2 of those because of his play

Nah.  That?s not true.

He's got a .903% on the season. He's actually an issue. Leafs aren't going to get over the top with this guy. Probably held onto him 1 year too long like Babcock. Should have done everything to move him this past summer but couldn't get a deal I guess

I dunno all Canadian teams goalie stats are trash this year.  How many wins should he have in 19 starts if he was playing ?well??

There's only a small group of bad goalies who are bad in the Canadian division playing worse than Andersen. Koskinen, Holtby & Murray. Like come on already. Smith, Allen, Demko, Hellebuyck and Markstrom are all better right now and that's most of the starters in the division.

 

[ZBBM]

Now Keefe knows what it's like to lose 3 in a row.

If the Leafs forwards couldn't score 4 or more goals every game, there'll be more coming with Andersen in net.

Last goal was on him.  We all know you only show up to bash Andersen, but please explain how the middle 2 were his fault.  Especially the second goal, which really turned the tide for WPG.

Save percentage .826 says it all.

Yet somehow 12-5-2?

Andersen only won maybe 2 of those because of his play

Nah.  That?s not true.

He's got a .903% on the season. He's actually an issue. Leafs aren't going to get over the top with this guy. Probably held onto him 1 year too long like Babcock. Should have done everything to move him this past summer but couldn't get a deal I guess

I dunno all Canadian teams goalie stats are trash this year.  How many wins should he have in 19 starts if he was playing ?well??

There's only a small group of bad goalies who are bad in the Canadian division playing worse than Andersen. Koskinen, Holtby & Murray. Like come on already. Smith, Allen, Demko, Hellebuyck and Markstrom are all better right now and that's most of the starters in the division.

As usual people overreact.  He's been average all year, but the idea that he's been lousy and still has a 12-5-2 record is just absurd.

That doesn't mean he should be gifted the starter's job.  If Campbell comes back and plays lights out, by all means run with him to see how he does in a string of starts.  Until he shows he can carry the load better the Fred ? and so far we just dont know ? then I  think you go with Andersen.

But as I said in another thread, this is his last chance to show he can win a playoff series with this team.

 

[Stronger Than All]

Campbell will start a bunch of games I can see it happening.

 

[wnc096]

Now Keefe knows what it's like to lose 3 in a row.

If the Leafs forwards couldn't score 4 or more goals every game, there'll be more coming with Andersen in net.

Last goal was on him.  We all know you only show up to bash Andersen, but please explain how the middle 2 were his fault.  Especially the second goal, which really turned the tide for WPG.

Save percentage .826 says it all.

Yet somehow 12-5-2?

Andersen only won maybe 2 of those because of his play

Nah.  That?s not true.

He's got a .903% on the season. He's actually an issue. Leafs aren't going to get over the top with this guy. Probably held onto him 1 year too long like Babcock. Should have done everything to move him this past summer but couldn't get a deal I guess

I dunno all Canadian teams goalie stats are trash this year.  How many wins should he have in 19 starts if he was playing ?well??

There's only a small group of bad goalies who are bad in the Canadian division playing worse than Andersen. Koskinen, Holtby & Murray. Like come on already. Smith, Allen, Demko, Hellebuyck and Markstrom are all better right now and that's most of the starters in the division.

As usual people overreact.  He's been average all year, but the idea that he's been lousy and still has a 12-5-2 record is just absurd.

That doesn't mean he should be gifted the starter's job.  If Campbell comes back and plays lights out, by all means run with him to see how he does in a string of starts.  Until he shows he can carry the load better the Fred ? and so far we just dont know ? then I  think you go with Andersen.

But as I said in another thread, this is his last chance to show he can win a playoff series with this team.

This is rational

 

[BrownRolo]

Is Campbell ready to go?

Give him the next game and if he plays well you ride him.

Freddy is gone as a UFA. No way the Leafs bring him back. And they don't owe him anything. They have given him so many chances this year and he's yet to impress.

 

[BrownRolo]

https://twitter.com/Account4hockey/status/1369475577363709953?s=20

Andersen 61st out of all the 78 goalies to face a shot this year in GSAx

 

[BrownRolo]

Now Keefe knows what it's like to lose 3 in a row.

If the Leafs forwards couldn't score 4 or more goals every game, there'll be more coming with Andersen in net.

Last goal was on him.  We all know you only show up to bash Andersen, but please explain how the middle 2 were his fault.  Especially the second goal, which really turned the tide for WPG.

Save percentage .826 says it all.

Yet somehow 12-5-2?

Andersen only won maybe 2 of those because of his play

Nah.  That?s not true.

He's got a .903% on the season. He's actually an issue. Leafs aren't going to get over the top with this guy. Probably held onto him 1 year too long like Babcock. Should have done everything to move him this past summer but couldn't get a deal I guess

I dunno all Canadian teams goalie stats are trash this year.  How many wins should he have in 19 starts if he was playing ?well??

There's only a small group of bad goalies who are bad in the Canadian division playing worse than Andersen. Koskinen, Holtby & Murray. Like come on already. Smith, Allen, Demko, Hellebuyck and Markstrom are all better right now and that's most of the starters in the division.

As usual people overreact.  He's been average all year, but the idea that he's been lousy and still has a 12-5-2 record is just absurd.

That doesn't mean he should be gifted the starter's job.  If Campbell comes back and plays lights out, by all means run with him to see how he does in a string of starts.  Until he shows he can carry the load better the Fred ? and so far we just dont know ? then I  think you go with Andersen.

But as I said in another thread, this is his last chance to show he can win a playoff series with this team.

Exactly. Wins show how good a goalie. Just ask Andrew Raycroft one of the greatest Leaf goalies of all time.

In case you haven't noticed, this team is actually quite good. I'd say they are winning despite Andersen so to look at this record as some kind of defence of his play is just wrong.

Look at the backups' numbers compared to him. It's ridiculous that Andersen's numbers across the board are so low. This team is solid defensively on the whole. All teams make brain farts. Even the Lightning. Your goalie needs to come up big once and a while.

That 4th goal was not pretty by the Leafs D but what is Andersen doing there?

 

[Andy007]

Marner when he needs to pass he shoots it in someone?s skates. When he should shoot he passes. Nothing like outplaying teams and losing.

Quote this for truth. Man, he stifled so many prime chances with is horrible shot/shot attempts. Very frustrating game overall.
Hellebyuck was fantastic and were it not for him the Leafs absolutely blow them away. I guess that's a positive, if Winnipeg is the division's toughest opponent. Still a shame to lose this one. The defense had some messy plays but Muzzin in particular was just horrific out there. And Andersen, well, he had little chance on most of those but completely gave up on that last one. 0-3 after that sweep in Edmonton is such a let down  :-\

 

[OldTimeHockey]

When do we get a #1 goalie?

Yeah it's Freddie's fault for everything.

Yeah. I?m not sure what people expect from him on that. If he bites on the move and makes the move across, he opens up the short side. If he doesn?t...well, we saw what happened. After Rielly gave it away and couldn?t recover, it was a lose-lose situation for Andersen.

Anyone who puts that loss on the goalie should really turn in their hockey knowledge card. You can continue cheering them on, but please just pick the team with the jerseys you like the mostest.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

This team is solid defensively on the whole. All teams make brain farts. Even the Lightning. Your goalie needs to come up big once and a while.

I stopped reading right there.
#1 - Saying this team is solid defensively is a gross exagerration
#2 - Comparing Andersen(or expecting Andersen to perform like) to the best goalie in the NHL is a bit of a stretch.

Andersen has not been great this year. Or for that matter, last year. He has some major flaws in his game that I don't like. The last two losses fall nowhere on the goalie. Blaming losses on goalies show a complete lack of knowledge of the sport and excuses like that are generally things you hear from the father in the corner of the rink eating popcorn and screaming at his kid to shoot the puck.
Even if we were to pin that 4th goal on Andersen, like you said, teams have brain farts. Even teams like Tampa Bay. My question is why can't a goalie have a brain fart? Why is he immediately a piece of hot garbage that needs to be thrown out? Why isn't Rielly thrown out? Why isn't Holl crucified for being terrible for a couple game snow? Why isn't Marner crucified for giving the game away against Vancourver?

 

[Frank E]

Adversity.

This is great for the team.

 

[Zee]

Bottom line for me on Andersen. If both him and Campbell are healthy come playoff time you have to go with the guy who's playing better at that time. Enough of automatically giving the net to Freddie he won't be back next year if he wants a raise.  Other teams have switched goalies come playoff time when their starter struggles, time for Leafs to do it too. Tired of seeing bad goals against in playoff series.

 

[Zee]

Now Keefe knows what it's like to lose 3 in a row.

If the Leafs forwards couldn't score 4 or more goals every game, there'll be more coming with Andersen in net.

Last goal was on him.  We all know you only show up to bash Andersen, but please explain how the middle 2 were his fault.  Especially the second goal, which really turned the tide for WPG.

Save percentage .826 says it all.

Yet somehow 12-5-2?

Andersen only won maybe 2 of those because of his play

Nah.  That?s not true.

He's got a .903% on the season. He's actually an issue. Leafs aren't going to get over the top with this guy. Probably held onto him 1 year too long like Babcock. Should have done everything to move him this past summer but couldn't get a deal I guess

I dunno all Canadian teams goalie stats are trash this year.  How many wins should he have in 19 starts if he was playing ?well??

There's only a small group of bad goalies who are bad in the Canadian division playing worse than Andersen. Koskinen, Holtby & Murray. Like come on already. Smith, Allen, Demko, Hellebuyck and Markstrom are all better right now and that's most of the starters in the division.

As usual people overreact.  He's been average all year, but the idea that he's been lousy and still has a 12-5-2 record is just absurd.

That doesn't mean he should be gifted the starter's job.  If Campbell comes back and plays lights out, by all means run with him to see how he does in a string of starts.  Until he shows he can carry the load better the Fred ? and so far we just dont know ? then I  think you go with Andersen.

But as I said in another thread, this is his last chance to show he can win a playoff series with this team.

I have no idea why 12-5-2 record should prove he's been good?  The team has been very good in front of him.  Might he be 15-2-2 if maybe he was saving at a .915% or better? Maybe!

 

[BrownRolo]

This team is solid defensively on the whole. All teams make brain farts. Even the Lightning. Your goalie needs to come up big once and a while.

I stopped reading right there.
#1 - Saying this team is solid defensively is a gross exagerration
#2 - Comparing Andersen(or expecting Andersen to perform like) to the best goalie in the NHL is a bit of a stretch.

Andersen has not been great this year. Or for that matter, last year. He has some major flaws in his game that I don't like. The last two losses fall nowhere on the goalie. Blaming losses on goalies show a complete lack of knowledge of the sport and excuses like that are generally things you hear from the father in the corner of the rink eating popcorn and screaming at his kid to shoot the puck.
Even if we were to pin that 4th goal on Andersen, like you said, teams have brain farts. Even teams like Tampa Bay. My question is why can't a goalie have a brain fart? Why is he immediately a piece of hot garbage that needs to be thrown out? Why isn't Rielly thrown out? Why isn't Holl crucified for being terrible for a couple game snow? Why isn't Marner crucified for giving the game away against Vancourver?

I question if you're a new fan? This team is solid defensively and there's consenting that. The advanced stats backup that claim. What are you basing your opinion on?

How about what is your expectation of this team?
You want them to play a trap game?

Leafs already have one of the lower numbers in allowing high danger scoring changes against. I believe it's Top 10.

I posted above Andersen has some of the worst GSAx in the league.

Why can't you just admit Andersen has been bad? "Andersen has not been great this year". So he's been good?

 

[BrownRolo]

When do we get a #1 goalie?

Yeah it's Freddie's fault for everything.

Yeah. I?m not sure what people expect from him on that. If he bites on the move and makes the move across, he opens up the short side. If he doesn?t...well, we saw what happened. After Rielly gave it away and couldn?t recover, it was a lose-lose situation for Andersen.

Anyone who puts that loss on the goalie should really turn in their hockey knowledge card. You can continue cheering them on, but please just pick the team with the jerseys you like the mostest.

Can I keep watching hockey oh mighty hockey knowledge man?

Geez buddy. Get off your high horse. People can have opinions. Where do you get off telling them what to think.