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John Tavares is a Maple Leaf

Nik the Trik said:
jdh1 said:
Yep, just because it was rare in the past,doesn,t mean it won't happen.There,s lots of pressure on Gm,s too improve there teams. I can see Arizona doing it,if for no other reason than to get fans to fill their seats. And make a huge impact in the southern states.

This sort of ignores the reason why offer sheets are so incredibly rare. Teams know that they'd have to make the offer so high, and the compensation so steep, that it would probably be a net negative for them. They're not good hockey decisions by and large unless you're dealing with a team that's pressed right up against the cap which the Leafs won't be.

It's a pointless exercise. Either a player is good enough that matching the offer is worthwhile, in which case their team matches it, or he's not worth the contract he's offered in which case it doesn't help the team offering it.
What would the compensation be if someone offer sheeted Marner? 5 first round picks?
 
Nik the Trik said:
jdh1 said:
I originally made the comment that I would not make Auston the captain right now.

Well, sort of. You said in your comment it would be "because he might be gone in a year" which, you know, isn't going to happen. Beyond that I think a lot of people are hesitant to make him captain right now for some legitimate reasons, namely he just might not be ready, but as Zee has said, even if the organization did want to make him the captain they wouldn't do it without a long term commitment agreed to beforehand.
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  Agreed on that.If he signs long term then he deserves the captaincy. I,d even donate $5 bucks to his contract.
 
Leafs don?t name a captain this season. We win the Cup. Who will be pushed to pick it up first?

Gotta be the Patty Man.
 
https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2018/07/01/john-tavares-introductory-press-conference-i-really-believed-that-there-was-a-big-window-here-to-win-and-be-a-part-of-something-special/

It bugs me a bit that they transcribed Tavares? fianc?e?s name wrong, but now I know how to pronounce it.
 
herman said:
Leafs don?t name a captain this season. We win the Cup. Who will be pushed to pick it up first?

Gotta be the Patty Man.

Personally, in that scenario, I'd go with longest serving Leaf.

Who, interestingly, is now Kadri.
 
herman said:
It bugs me a bit that they transcribed Tavares? fianc?e?s name wrong, but now I know how to pronounce it.

Good gravy, when you said that I assumed it would just be the old Irish spelling but they really went for the full Scrabble score with that one.
 
Wendel's Fist said:
herman said:
Leafs don?t name a captain this season. We win the Cup. Who will be pushed to pick it up first?

Gotta be the Patty Man.

Brian Papineau, with a full water bottle for Bettman.

Oh man the OG Papi would be inspired.

If it was up to Babcock it?d probably be going to Roman Polak.
 
Awesome news, can't recall any other Leafs free agent signing that came close to generating this much excitement!

I saw a few people walking around Maple Leaf Square with Tavares Leafs jerseys already. BTW, the ACC looks bizarre with "Scotiabank Arena" up on the side of the building now.

Not too worried about the "C", if anything don't name one...seemed to work fine last year without one.

Unless the Buds hope to outscore the entire league (and they just well might with this lineup) there is still a pressing need on the blueline, but that can wait for another day.

GO LEAFS GO!!!  8)
 
Earlier in the year I didn?t see a fit with us, but as the Islander stock started to sink and the Leafs put up another year of progress, I kind of started to hope even though I knew hockey players were dumb and safe. Little did I know that Tavares was a super big nerd and that he?d be won over by FACTS. I was dancing the whole day.
 
herman said:
Earlier in the year I didn?t see a fit with us, but as the Islander stock started to sink and the Leafs put up another year of progress, I kind of started to hope even though I knew hockey players were dumb and safe. Little did I know that Tavares was a super big nerd and that he?d be won over by FACTS. I was dancing the whole day.

You know, I think for sometime now I've been expecting someone, a legit star, to really go into free agency and use it to get what they wanted. I probably assumed that meant money too heavily but I think the league was overdue for a star to really want to reap the justly deserved rewards of free agency.

Cuz let's not mince words, even though he may have turned down more money(and who knows how San Jose's offer was structured) Tavares does now have the 2nd highest cap hit in the league. And good for him, he deserves it. I'm happy to see players use their leverage against a really unfair system.

But man, it just feels like such a win. To improve your team this much with no real cost and at an eminently reasonable price tag. I'm pretty freaking happy about it.
 
On the Island, not so much in the way of happiness:

It came like the slow ripping of a Band-Aid, and now the wound will bleed out all over Islanders fans for years to come.

Yeesh, that's a lede?

Uh, yeah ... from the NY Post.  ::) ::)

But actually, the reactions they quote run the gamut: bitter betrayal, trash the jersey, it's on management (that would be my take), he deserves to chase his dream, Barzal is already better than him  ::) ::) ::), wow look at all the cap space, Lou and Trotz will right the ship.

I absolutely would be bitter if I were an Isles fan.  Can you imagine how we'll feel when Matthews walks someday so he can pursue his boyhood dream of lifting the Coyotes* to greatness?



* Problem is, the Coyotes will be defunct by that time
 
Nik the Trik said:
Zee said:
What would the compensation be if someone offer sheeted Marner? 5 first round picks?

The biggest RFA compensation is 4 first rounders:

https://www.capfriendly.com/offer-sheet-calculator

And like I said, you'd match any Matthews offer sheet and Marner really doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who'd sign an offer sheet and bail on his hometown team and playing on Tavares' wing.

I think Down Goes Brown had an article that said the problem with the RFA system is that the compensation isn't higher.  The reasoning behind this was that it's a no-brainer to just match the offer.  If the compensation was higher, then the GM may actually have to think about whether or not they wanted to match it and it may lead to more RFA offer sheets. 
 
Significantly Insignificant said:
I think Down Goes Brown had an article that said the problem with the RFA system is that the compensation isn't higher.  The reasoning behind this was that it's a no-brainer to just match the offer.  If the compensation was higher, then the GM may actually have to think about whether or not they wanted to match it and it may lead to more RFA offer sheets.

Well, the "problem" with the RFA system is that it's a joke that's meant to give the impression of some sort of player freedom but without any actual interest in it. If the league really cared about it as a means to facilitate player movement it'd be the easiest thing in the world to address. It sucks, but it sucks by design.

I mean, if you make compensation that much higher why even have an RFA system?
 

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