John Tavares is a Maple Leaf
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Zee
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Nik the Trik said:
As bad as Arizona has been, they have hope their for the future. Some nice players in the pipeline, the trade for Galchenyuk might be good for them. Also they played really well the second half of last season, they might surprise this year. So yeah, OEL could buy into that.
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Zee said:
Eh, I don't see their assembled young talent as being particularly better than the Islanders. Both had a Calder candidate. Both have some B or B+ guys outside of the NHL. I actually think the Islanders had a better draft than they did. Is Chychrun better than Pulock? Is Dvorak better than Beauvillier?
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I also think the reason you'll never see guys in the NHL chase rings the way they do in the NBA is that Basketball is just the realities of the money in both sports. Lebron just signed a deal that'll pay him nearly 40 million a year and it's still probably not going to be as much as his off-court income. Kevin Durant wins a championship and he has a "I won a Championship" shoe commercial 10 minutes later. From what I'm told, the big thing in marketing internationally(and especially in China) is having titles.
So taking less money to be on a contender in the NBA can make real financial sense in addition to the rest of it. In the NHL, you're living off your salary.
So taking less money to be on a contender in the NBA can make real financial sense in addition to the rest of it. In the NHL, you're living off your salary.
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Yeah good point about the NBA and the money. It's an entirely different stratosphere. I can't stand the NBA at all by the way, never watch. I mean when there's basically 1 team that really can win, what's the point?
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For what it's worth I think that's a little overstated. The team that won the title was also down 3 games to 2 in the conference finals and it took a historic game 7 collapse by the Rockets for them to even make the finals.
There are probably 4 or 5 genuine contenders each year who are legitimately great teams. Is that better or worse thsn a league where an expansion team is as good as anyone else? To each their own.
Yeah good point about the NBA and the money. It's an entirely different stratosphere. I can't stand the NBA at all by the way, never watch. I mean when there's basically 1 team that really can win, what's the point?
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For what it's worth I think that's a little overstated. The team that won the title was also down 3 games to 2 in the conference finals and it took a historic game 7 collapse by the Rockets for them to even make the finals.
There are probably 4 or 5 genuine contenders each year who are legitimately great teams. Is that better or worse thsn a league where an expansion team is as good as anyone else? To each their own.
Zee
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Nik the Trik said:
For what it's worth I think that's a little overstated. The team that won the title was also down 3 games to 2 in the conference finals and it took a historic game 7 collapse by the Rockets for them to even make the finals.
There are probably 4 or 5 genuine contenders each year who are legitimately great teams. Is that better or worse thsn a league where an expansion team is as good as anyone else? To each their own.
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I'll go out on a limb and pick Golden State to win next season.
Nik the Trik said:
For what it's worth I think that's a little overstated. The team that won the title was also down 3 games to 2 in the conference finals and it took a historic game 7 collapse by the Rockets for them to even make the finals.
There are probably 4 or 5 genuine contenders each year who are legitimately great teams. Is that better or worse thsn a league where an expansion team is as good as anyone else? To each their own.
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Also, I get that Golden State is really taking this thing to the next level, but people seem to forget that prior to this year the NHL only had 4 different teams win the Cup in a 9-year span.
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CarltonTheBear said:
Also, I get that Golden State is really taking this thing to the next level, but people seem to forget that prior to this year the NHL only had 4 different teams win the Cup in a 9-year span.
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True, but you've also had 4 different Cup winners in the last 5 seasons.
CarltonTheBear said:
Also, I get that Golden State is really taking this thing to the next level, but people seem to forget that prior to this year the NHL only had 4 different teams win the Cup in a 9-year span.
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Yeah it did seem like it was just a rotating cast for a few years.
Nik the Trik said:herman said:
I don't get this at all. Muller won a cup after leaving New Jersey. Shanahan won 3 cups and went on to a HHOF career? Remember him?
And it feels like there's a name missing from the list. Biedernayer? Fliederpayer? Something like that?
And Neidermayer would probably be the closest comparable to the John Tavares situation.
Breaking news: old hockey fart thinks other old hockey fart is a-ok!
I actually think Fischler's onto something here though. I mean Martin Brodeur never won a Cup after he left New Jersey either.
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CarltonTheBear said:
And everyone wonders why it smells so much on Long Island while old-farts discuss what they ate for lunch.
