John Tavares is a Maple Leaf

[herman]

There is a downside to signing Tavares that I did not consider. 

At some point throughout the season I will be torn between whether I want Babcock to put Nylander, Matthews and Marner together for multiple shifts to see what happens or to put Nylander, Tavares, and Marner together for multiple shifts to see what happens.

We might see a more skewed version of last season, where certain lines were leaned on for certain roles. In particular I'm talking about score effects on TOI (and thus production).

When we were leading: Kadri and 4th line got lots of minutes (woo! another empty for Marleau). When we were chasing, Matthews and Bozak lines got all the shifts. Last season, we led a lot.

This season, I think we will be leading very often. Without Babcock's usual stalwarts of gudness to deploy, we'll see a lot of Kadri and Tavares I think (or Tavares and Lindholm/4C).

 

[Bullfrog]

There is a downside to signing Tavares that I did not consider. 

At some point throughout the season I will be torn between whether I want Babcock to put Nylander, Matthews and Marner together for multiple shifts to see what happens or to put Nylander, Tavares, and Marner together for multiple shifts to see what happens. 

Kadri-Matthews-Marner
Tavares-Nylander

We're winning the Stanley Cup this year, aren't we?

 

[Highlander]

We better before I croak

 

[hockeyfan1]

We better before I croak

There is a downside to signing Tavares that I did not consider. 

At some point throughout the season I will be torn between whether I want Babcock to put Nylander, Matthews and Marner together for multiple shifts to see what happens or to put Nylander, Tavares, and Marner together for multiple shifts to see what happens. 

Kadri-Matthews-Marner
Tavares-Nylander

We're winning the Stanley Cup this year, aren't we?

..and that's why I've started planning my parade route. 

 

[cabber24]

We better before I croak

There is a downside to signing Tavares that I did not consider. 

At some point throughout the season I will be torn between whether I want Babcock to put Nylander, Matthews and Marner together for multiple shifts to see what happens or to put Nylander, Tavares, and Marner together for multiple shifts to see what happens. 

Kadri-Matthews-Marner
Tavares-Nylander

We're winning the Stanley Cup this year, aren't we?

..and that's why I've started planning my parade route. 

Saturday, June 15, 2019 will be the parade date, book it! A birthday outing for my daughter. I will see you all there.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/BrettCyrgalis/status/1039605491129823232

More and more and more convinced that Tavares would have stayed with the Islanders if they didn't replace Snow with Lou.

 

[herman]

https://theathletic.com/497044/2018/09/12/family-ties-how-john-tavares-became-the-man-and-player-he-is-today/

Big profile piece on hometown Maple Leaf, John Tavares.

Big lols to anyone who thinks Tavares will be sour about Matthews getting the C.

?He?s one of those guys that if you?re around him enough, you realize what the word ?professionalism? is,? former Islanders head coach Jack Capuano said. ?He was obviously brought up the right way ? he understands values of life, he understands the importance of family and team. There?s no ?I? or ?me? in John.?

Capuano saw it firsthand when he was fired from the Islanders in early 2017. Tavares had only 32 points in 42 games to that point for a last-place New York squad. He was first to call.

?It?s a phone call that I won?t forget because, again, as I was talking to this young man I felt like I was talking to a 40-plus-year-old lawyer,? Capuano said. ?He took all the responsibility of being a .500 team ? that he wasn?t good enough.

He also nearly Happy Gilmore'd Sam Gagner as a kid, which is... yikes.

 

[ZBBM]

https://twitter.com/BrettCyrgalis/status/1039605491129823232

More and more and more convinced that Tavares would have stayed with the Islanders if they didn't replace Snow with Lou.

Snark aside, Lou's right.

 

[cabber24]

https://twitter.com/BrettCyrgalis/status/1039605491129823232

More and more and more convinced that Tavares would have stayed with the Islanders if they didn't replace Snow with Lou.

Yes, the Islanders have been a dumpster fire. Yes, I wish Tavares had more playoff experience.

 

[Kin]

Snark aside, Lou's right.

Sure. Remember how none of us really like Mats Sundin?

 

[cabber24]

Snark aside, Lou's right.

Sure. Remember how none of us really like Mats Sundin?

Sundin played a lot more playoff games then Tavares. Although I liked Sundin, I always resented how little the Sundin lead squad actually accomplished. Winning means something on a resume.

 

[Redleaf]

Snark aside, Lou's right.

Sure. Remember how none of us really like Mats Sundin?

Who? Do you mean Sandin? 8)

 

[cabber24]

He also nearly Happy Gilmore'd Sam Gagner as a kid, which is... yikes.

Don't have The Athletic, did Tavares try to stab Gagner with his skate?

 

[Kin]

Sundin played a lot more playoff games then Tavares. Although I liked Sundin, I always resented how little the Sundin lead squad actually accomplished. Winning means something on a resume.

Leaving aside that I disagree with all of that Lamoriello, who hasn't won a playoff series in years and has been on Long Island for all of 15 minutes, probably isn't the best guy to measure Tavares' impact on the franchise either.

 

[herman]

He also nearly Happy Gilmore'd Sam Gagner as a kid, which is... yikes.

Don't have The Athletic, did Tavares try to stab Gagner with his skate?

You're on the right track.

 

[Guru Tugginmypuddah]

Right.  The entire problem of the Leafs during the Sundin years was Sundin being a bum.  Just like Tavares didn't accomplish anything in Long Island, because he is a bum. 

Both equally bums. 

 

[caver]

Sundin played a lot more playoff games then Tavares. Although I liked Sundin, I always resented how little the Sundin lead squad actually accomplished. Winning means something on a resume.

Leaving aside that I disagree with all of that Lamoriello, who hasn't won a playoff series in years and has been on Long Island for all of 15 minutes, probably isn't the best guy to measure Tavares' impact on the franchise either.

and this will play out when the season starts...Lou's record as GM of the Islanders will speak for itself...

 

[Goaliedave31]

Snark aside, Lou's right.

Sure. Remember how none of us really like Mats Sundin?

Sundin played a lot more playoff games then Tavares. Although I liked Sundin, I always resented how little the Sundin lead squad actually accomplished. Winning means something on a resume.

Have never understood the thinking that players are less great if they haven't won a Cup. Look at everyone that is a hall of famer that has also won a Cup(s). Would Gordie Howe's career be seen as a failure if he hadn't won with those great teams he was on in the early 50s? From 1955 to the end of his career he never won another one. Why? He didn't have the supporting cast. Just like Sundin and,so far, Tavares. Can you name a player that has single handedly won his team a Cup? Of course not.

 

[herman]

Welcome Goaliedave31!

 

[TimKerr]

Snark aside, Lou's right.

Sure. Remember how none of us really like Mats Sundin?

Sundin played a lot more playoff games then Tavares. Although I liked Sundin, I always resented how little the Sundin lead squad actually accomplished. Winning means something on a resume.

Have never understood the thinking that players are less great if they haven't won a Cup. Look at everyone that is a hall of famer that has also won a Cup(s). Would Gordie Howe's career be seen as a failure if he hadn't won with those great teams he was on in the early 50s? From 1955 to the end of his career he never won another one. Why? He didn't have the supporting cast. Just like Sundin and,so far, Tavares. Can you name a player that has single handedly won his team a Cup? Of course not.

Patrick Roy in '86 but other than that I 100% agree with you.