bustaheims
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Potvin29 said:No, Cox, none of those guys were drafted when they were eligible. They are not similar situations.
Well, Van Ryn was, but, otherwise, yeah.
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Potvin29 said:No, Cox, none of those guys were drafted when they were eligible. They are not similar situations.
LeafsInSeven said:For example, before the full blown NHL draft (1969), players' rights were even more indentured to franchises at very young ages based on territorial rights held by the Canadian teams especially in Quebec and Ontario especially.
LeafsInSeven said:Fanatic said:Potvin29 said:Similar unrestricted young players have come on line in recent years, from Teddy Purcell to Matt Gilroy, from Fabian Brunnstrom to Jonas (The Monster) Gustavsson, from Jussi Rynnas to Mats (The Norwegian Hobbit) Zuccarello, from Christian Hanson to Tyler Bozak. Heck, once upon a time teams went bananas over Mike Van Ryn because he managed to make himself an unrestricted free agent
No, Cox, none of those guys were drafted when they were eligible. They are not similar situations.
True, but to be fair, there are more similarities than differences. You might be splitting hairs.
All of these players are guys who were ranked much higher 2 - 3 years after the draft than when the draft was held. They were all unrestricted free agents and there was a lot of hype around them all.
Probably the best comparables to the Schultz free agency frenzy would be R.J. Umberger and Blake Wheeler who are players that the drafting franchises certainly would have signed if the player was willing to sign in one way or another.
Nik? said:LeafsInSeven said:For example, before the full blown NHL draft (1969), players' rights were even more indentured to franchises at very young ages based on territorial rights held by the Canadian teams especially in Quebec and Ontario especially.
That's not actually true.
The Original Six era has been criticized for having a playoff system which was too easy (only two teams were eliminated after the regular season) and for featuring too many dominant teams[citation needed] (Montreal never missed the playoffs between 1949 and 1967 and Detroit and Toronto only missed three times each, leaving the other three teams to compete for the one remaining berth). Boston, Chicago, and New York were put at a competitive disadvantage by the rule that each team had exclusive rights to negotiate contracts with promising local players within 50 miles of its home ice.[citation needed] Detroit was less affected by this,[citation needed] since southwestern Ontario was part of its local talent pool. If a player was not within the 50-mile limit, that player was free to field offers from any team.[citation needed] Once that player agreed to a sponsorship-level contract, the NHL club could assign him to its sponsored junior squad ? its "sponsorship list". In practice, all six teams recruited players from Canada by sponsoring minor league, junior and amateur teams.
Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun
Am told both Ontario teams, Ottawa and Toronto, are among teams on Justin Schultz's negotiating list...
LeafsInSeven said:It could be false as it's uncited but it wasn't me who made it up. I knew I read it somewhere:
LeafsInSeven said:An aside: I wonder how these "sponsorship-level contracts" were even legal? Surely minors shouldn't be legally bound to a contract and an organization for the rest of his life.
Potvin29 said:Yeah, we should come to expect by now that these things are going to be hyped up, we've seen it happen numerous times the last few years already. It's the nature of modern media.
Fanatic said:Bob McKenzie@TSNBobMcKenzie
NYR are in on Justin Schultz. @DarrenDreger confirms TOR is in, @Real_ESPNLeBrun confirms OTT is in. That makes it VAN, EDM, NYR, TOR, OTT.
Zee said:Haven't even seen him play and i'm already sick of hearing about Schultz.
Corn Flake said:Zee said:Haven't even seen him play and i'm already sick of hearing about Schultz.
Let's talk about this Schultz instead...
bustaheims said:DarrenDreger: Justin Schultz lottery is fascinating, considering teams IN and teams OUT. Told Flyers are in the "OUT" line.
Real_ESPNLeBrun: Calgary, Boston and Detroit also among high-profile teams that didn't make Justin Shultz short-list...
Corn Flake said:Zee said:Haven't even seen him play and i'm already sick of hearing about Schultz.
Let's talk about this Schultz instead...
Corn Flake said:No Calgary or Mtl on his heavily Canadian short list... suggests he thinks they will suck for a long time (true) and the other options could be good teams sooner.
Sgt said:Corn Flake said:Zee said:Haven't even seen him play and i'm already sick of hearing about Schultz.
Let's talk about this Schultz instead...
haha... Imagine, Schultz, Holzer, Kessel, Mueller... Just what exactly is going on here?
Nik? said:Corn Flake said:No Calgary or Mtl on his heavily Canadian short list... suggests he thinks they will suck for a long time (true) and the other options could be good teams sooner.