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Kings @ Maple Leafs - Dec. 8th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050

herman said:
https://twitter.com/tictactomar/status/1601010326681530368

A part of me didn't even necessarily think this should have been a penalty, although through the rule book it obivously is since no one actually touched the puck. Seemed like two guys who both decided to engage in a physical puck battle, although Robertson was severely out-matched.

It seems harsh to say at this point considering his injury but I think Robertson needs to learn when to engage in these battles and when to maybe play it a tad bit more safe.
 
L K said:
Maybe it?s just me but that didn?t look that bad.  Beyond that if the refs did their job on the previous play that never happens but they didn?t want to take both men off the ice on the previous play

Exactly my thought. Durzi and Engvall were both going at it for a while and the refs did nothing.  Blow it down and that infraction doesn't happen.
 
No problem, BritishBullDog! I wanted a closer look at it earlier to see if it was avoidable or malicious.

CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
https://twitter.com/tictactomar/status/1601010326681530368

A part of me didn't even necessarily think this should have been a penalty, although through the rule book it obivously is since no one actually touched the puck. Seemed like two guys who both decided to engage in a physical puck battle, although Robertson was severely out-matched.

It seems harsh to say at this point considering his injury but I think Robertson needs to learn when to engage in these battles and when to maybe play it a tad bit more safe.

I think Carlton has the long and short of it. Pick your battles, and even then, don?t play it on their terms if you can help it.

Nick is very strong and super tough (for his size), and is hyper competitive, so a lot of that usually wins out, but Matt Roy is pretty stout himself and had the high ground positionally speaking, and they made contact while Robertson was not on stable footing.
 
Robertson could learn a lot (on the offensive side) from Nylander, the ultimate 'pick your spots' guy. He's a bit more selective about when to apply his strength than some in the fanbase might like, but it's very hard to argue with the results: extremely durable, extremely productive.

https://twitter.com/TicTacTOmar/status/1601022898952863744
Not shown in these clips is his hard backcheck to kill a rush chance, and then staying low to support his D-pair in winning the boards to re-start the offense in his own zone.
 
herman said:
No problem, BritishBullDog! I wanted a closer look at it earlier to see if it was avoidable or malicious.

CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
https://twitter.com/tictactomar/status/1601010326681530368

A part of me didn't even necessarily think this should have been a penalty, although through the rule book it obivously is since no one actually touched the puck. Seemed like two guys who both decided to engage in a physical puck battle, although Robertson was severely out-matched.

It seems harsh to say at this point considering his injury but I think Robertson needs to learn when to engage in these battles and when to maybe play it a tad bit more safe.

I think Carlton has the long and short of it. Pick your battles, and even then, don?t play it on their terms if you can help it.

Nick is very strong and super tough (for his size), and is hyper competitive, so a lot of that usually wins out, but Matt Roy is pretty stout himself and had the high ground positionally speaking, and they made contact while Robertson was not on stable footing.

Agreed.  There are other similarly small players who aren't getting filled in the way Robertson is. He either needs to find a way to improve his strength to withstand these battles or he needs to find a way to avoid the contact better.

Nick Robertson 5'9" 183 lbs
Dennis Malgin 5'9" 182 lbs
 
L K said:
herman said:
No problem, BritishBullDog! I wanted a closer look at it earlier to see if it was avoidable or malicious.

CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
https://twitter.com/tictactomar/status/1601010326681530368

A part of me didn't even necessarily think this should have been a penalty, although through the rule book it obivously is since no one actually touched the puck. Seemed like two guys who both decided to engage in a physical puck battle, although Robertson was severely out-matched.

It seems harsh to say at this point considering his injury but I think Robertson needs to learn when to engage in these battles and when to maybe play it a tad bit more safe.

I think Carlton has the long and short of it. Pick your battles, and even then, don?t play it on their terms if you can help it.

Nick is very strong and super tough (for his size), and is hyper competitive, so a lot of that usually wins out, but Matt Roy is pretty stout himself and had the high ground positionally speaking, and they made contact while Robertson was not on stable footing.

Agreed.  There are other similarly small players who aren't getting filled in the way Robertson is. He either needs to find a way to improve his strength to withstand these battles or he needs to find a way to avoid the contact better.

Nick Robertson 5'9" 183 lbs
Dennis Malgin 5'9" 182 lbs

Pick his spots, but I also think it's Nick's lack of balance as well.
 
Dappleganger said:
L K said:
Nick Robertson 5'9" 183 lbs
Dennis Malgin 5'9" 182 lbs

Pick his spots, but I also think it's Nick's lack of balance as well.

Yeah, Robertson is Inverse Dorito Shaped. It looks like he tries to stay solid through contact.

I see Malgin, who is a much cleaner skater, get blasted into the boards at least once a game (drink?) and just just goes limp to absorb hits. Marner, who is a genius, invites contact at times to propel him in the direction he wants to go. A lot of it is seeing the patterns in the play and instinctively positioning yourself to shield the puck, or get to better ice; basically having a plan. Robertson's only plan, it seems, is going through obstacles.
 

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