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Kyle Dubas is new Leafs GM

girls/women visualize the game much better than boys of the same age. They're able to process and integrate systems much easier and have no real issue with new concepts.
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I certainly agree with this.  I have provided positive examples why a women could be a good coach.

Does she have experience coaching?  Maybe starting off as an assistant coach in St. John's or a minor role at the AHL team and go from there.  She is obviously bright to get into medical school, has a ton of guts (facing sexism playing against men, playing with a broken foot, etc.).  If she still wants to pursue medical school I cannot imagine her being more than casually involved in the organization. 
 
https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/from-the-branches/2018/6/29/17516792/from-the-branches-toronto-maple-leafs-news-future-hall-of-famer-hayley-wickenheiser-development-camp

Wick turned up at camp this week, helping to run drills and coach scrimmages. The usual internet trolls had questions about what a woman can teach the Leafs prospects. Those same trolls would be appalled if I pointed out that Auston Matthews plays a very women?s hockey style of game. Not a lot of hitting, (but plenty of puck battles) a lot of movement, excellent hand-eye co-ordination, and a lot of scoring close to the net.
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Interview: https://youtu.be/2C_qjqO22K0

She revealed that Dubas invited her to camp a few months ago, and that they?d talked a few times since then. As well, she indicated that she?d be open to a continuing relationship with the Leafs, if it made sense. Her focus is on individual player development more than bench coaching, although she said that she thought there were a few women who would be both able and willing to step behind an NHL bench. (One of the coaches she may have been thinking of could be her former national team teammate and her coach when she was with the University of Calgary Dinos, Hall of Famer Danielle Goyette.)

Another thing Wickenheiser brings to the camp is that her son Noah is 18. (Pause, while some of us feel very very old.) She deals with guys around the same ages as these prospects every day - I?m sure her Momvoice is on point. Really if Hayley Wickenheiser is Momvoicing you while you?re on the ice, you?re probably going to pay attention right quick.
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She has also won more than any other person in the Leafs organization, player or staff. You can quibble about the 'difficulty' level, but quality of competition is relative. As you well know, this organization values the experience of winning, as well as market inefficiencies, and the lack of women in NHL organization staffs is one of the biggest gaps out there.
 
Average Joes said:
girls/women visualize the game much better than boys of the same age. They're able to process and integrate systems much easier and have no real issue with new concepts.
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I have provided positive examples why a women could be a good coach.
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I think the biggest issue people took with your original post was that they'd be good motivators like an aunt or mother. Why are those the methods that a woman would use to motivate?

Anyways, good luck to Hayley. I'd be pumped if something came of this. She was good enough this year to send our hockey camp participants a video welcoming them to the camp. Not many top athletes agree to that so readily.

https://www.womenshockeyacademy.com/partnership
There's a longer video for the participants but still pretty cool IMO
 
herman said:
https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/from-the-branches/2018/6/29/17516792/from-the-branches-toronto-maple-leafs-news-future-hall-of-famer-hayley-wickenheiser-development-camp

Wick turned up at camp this week, helping to run drills and coach scrimmages. The usual internet trolls had questions about what a woman can teach the Leafs prospects. Those same trolls would be appalled if I pointed out that Auston Matthews plays a very women?s hockey style of game. Not a lot of hitting, (but plenty of puck battles) a lot of movement, excellent hand-eye co-ordination, and a lot of scoring close to the net.
[...]

Interview: https://youtu.be/2C_qjqO22K0

She revealed that Dubas invited her to camp a few months ago, and that they?d talked a few times since then. As well, she indicated that she?d be open to a continuing relationship with the Leafs, if it made sense. Her focus is on individual player development more than bench coaching, although she said that she thought there were a few women who would be both able and willing to step behind an NHL bench. (One of the coaches she may have been thinking of could be her former national team teammate and her coach when she was with the University of Calgary Dinos, Hall of Famer Danielle Goyette.)

Another thing Wickenheiser brings to the camp is that her son Noah is 18. (Pause, while some of us feel very very old.) She deals with guys around the same ages as these prospects every day - I?m sure her Momvoice is on point. Really if Hayley Wickenheiser is Momvoicing you while you?re on the ice, you?re probably going to pay attention right quick.
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She has also won more than any other person in the Leafs organization, player or staff. You can quibble about the 'difficulty' level, but quality of competition is relative. As you well know, this organization values the experience of winning, as well as market inefficiencies, and the lack of women in NHL organization staffs is one of the biggest gaps out there.
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I?m all for giving her an opportunity because to be a coach does not necessitate absolutel dominance in the NHL in your past but I do think the disparity in competition is being glossed over a lot.  There is an astronomical gap in competition between the NHL and Women?s hockey.  In really don?t see why we need to pretend that there isn?t and I have seen a few articles talking about it being sexist to dismiss the hockey. 

That comment about Matthews playing a women?s game also seems disingenuous because at the end of the day he has players coming out and hitting him.  Being able to hit people isn?t just about your ability to throw hits but also play through a type of defense they the women don?t have to face.  They does make it different.

It still doesn?t omit Hayley from potentially being a good or even great mentor though.  If she is good at the job, she should get one regardless of gender.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
Average Joes said:
girls/women visualize the game much better than boys of the same age. They're able to process and integrate systems much easier and have no real issue with new concepts.
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I have provided positive examples why a women could be a good coach.
Click to expand...

I think the biggest issue people took with your original post was that they'd be good motivators like an aunt or mother. Why are those the methods that a woman would use to motivate.
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Good or bad a women is going to be viewed differently by players to some extent. A player getting coached from a somewhat different perspective might be helpful.  Just as they may react to the instructions from a mother or female authority figure differently than a male. A player?s upbringing could factor in. Some players may respond better to a female vs male authority figure. I am not saying it would be significant nor apply to a majority.
 
Average Joes said:
Good or bad a women is going to be viewed differently by players to some extent. A player getting coached from a somewhat different perspective might be helpful.
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Yeah, I'm just not sure that's true. I think once people get over the novelty of it they can relate to each other as professionals with gender not playing a role. People do it every day at work.
 
L K said:
It still doesn?t omit Hayley from potentially being a good or even great mentor though.  If she is good at the job, she should get one regardless of gender.
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I think most people would broadly agree there but it is striking that when someone with Wickenheiser's background is discussed for a potential front office role there's all this talk about the difference between men and women's hockey and how her own personal hockey playing background would inform her ability to effectively communicate strategy to NHLers when there are dozens of guys in the league whose qualifications for their entry-level NHL jobs basically amounted to their Fathers having worked in NHL front offices and nobody bats an eye.

I don't know how Wickenheiser might do in the as yet unspecified role she may be hired for but for anyone to pretend that absent the hiring of a woman  NHL front offices are some sort of tested-by-iron meritocracy is pretty ridiculous.
 
I play in a summer League here in Saskatoon that has the University Women's team in my division for about 10 years now.  They do play a different style but to be honest they are our most fun games of the summer.  They play in the truest sense of separating you from the puck, it doesn't need to actually try to behead you to be successful.  Simply take the space from your opponent by taking that space yourself.  I welcome any kind of help the World can give us for our increased wealth and I think you will find young men now will not have any issue with that help coming from a woman, older guys might get their backs up a little. By the ay not that it matters but heck have these girls gotten better in that timeframe!!!! 
 
Bates said:
I play in a summer League here in Saskatoon that has the University Women's team in my division for about 10 years now.  They do play a different style but to be honest they are our most fun games of the summer.  They play in the truest sense of separating you from the puck, it doesn't need to actually try to behead you to be successful.  Simply take the space from your opponent by taking that space yourself.  I welcome any kind of help the World can give us for our increased wealth and I think you will find young men now will not have any issue with that help coming from a woman, older guys might get their backs up a little. By the ay not that it matters but heck have these girls gotten better in that timeframe!!!!
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Well, I'm guessing you're not a professional hockey player.

There's a huge difference in speed, size, skill, and resulting strategies and skills required when we're talking about NHL hockey vs. top-level women's hockey.  But I'm sure she knows that too.

Having said that, I'd bet she could outplay many current NHL head coaches, at any point of their careers.

The fact that she's a woman looking to get into the development projects of the pro-men's game is largely irrelevant to me...if she's a good teacher, a good communicator, and players respect her because of her accomplishments, then give her a shot.  Her gender is irrelevant to me. 
 
Nik the Trik said:
L K said:
It still doesn?t omit Hayley from potentially being a good or even great mentor though.  If she is good at the job, she should get one regardless of gender.
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I think most people would broadly agree there but it is striking that when someone with Wickenheiser's background is discussed for a potential front office role there's all this talk about the difference between men and women's hockey and how her own personal hockey playing background would inform her ability to effectively communicate strategy to NHLers when there are dozens of guys in the league whose qualifications for their entry-level NHL jobs basically amounted to their Fathers having worked in NHL front offices and nobody bats an eye.

I don't know how Wickenheiser might do in the as yet unspecified role she may be hired for but for anyone to pretend that absent the hiring of a woman  NHL front offices are some sort of tested-by-iron meritocracy is pretty ridiculous.
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That?s fair and something I was guilty of in my post so I?ll concede that. 
 
https://theathletic.com/413732/2018/06/30/leafs-development-camp-offers-portal-into-teams-all-encompassing-approach/

On the phones of all 46 players who attended this week?s Leafs development camp in Etobicoke is an app.

On the app is a specialized package for each player which includes videos the Leafs? development team spent the entire week recording of their drills and games, from iPads at ice level to birds-eye cameras in the stands. Some are minute explanations and breakdowns of their strides by skating coach Barb Underhill. Some were shot by a bevvy of other staff ? more than a dozen on one pad at any given time.

On the ice, Leafs assistants D.J. Smith and Jim Hiller coordinate drills, or teach skills-specific techniques on things like how they?d like a player to lean on forwards in front of the net.

Nearby, Stephane Robidas and Marlies assistant coach Rob Davidson take a different group of defencemen to another pad to work on head fakes and to detail how they want them to cup the puck at the tail end of a curl into the corner.
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This is what Dubas oversaw while serving as AGM in collaboration with Scott Pellerin and the team of consultants they reeled in.

The app sounds like Jack Han?s brainchild (Minute Tactics videos). As videos are shot and clipped and marked up, they are tagged and uploaded and the specific player gets a live notebook to study.

Wheeler noted that some of the camp invites, while maybe deserving in their own right, were also there in support of the draftees who are their teammates on their current teams. Every one of them got the full treatment designed to maximize their potential as players, regardless of what role they might have in the Leafs? plans, even the injured.
 
Nested in the article above is the role of current coaches from non affiliated teams being invited to participate and help out: the Kingston Frontenacs head coach, Frolunda?s head coach among others. It is clearly being used to selflessly develop coaches as well as players, i.e. Dubas? stated goal with the Growlers ECHL affiliate.
 
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