Leafs 2013/2014 Schedule in 10 game chunks
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bustaheims
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RedLeaf said:
That's really a pretty myopic way of looking at things. Good results that come without good performances are generally a pretty good indication of an unsustainable situation. Eventually, the poor performances will become (or return to) poor results. A three game winning streak where they played poorly is not an indicator of future success, but rather an anomaly. I'd much rather have something that indicates potential for sustainable success than some fleeting and likely meaningless victories.
Redleaf
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bustaheims said:
I totally agree. I'd much rather have better performances, but at this point I'll take all the points I can and run to the bank with them. Once the the injured centers return, they can at least look at their record and point to the few points they've picked up, even with an extended losing streak and with poor performances.
This team has shown some flashes of of what may be to come with their speed and skill, and even brief moments of greatness, but they have just been much, much too sparse. I think they are in need of a more veteran presence if they want to take it to the next level, and show the young guys what it takes to compete night in and night out in this league.They need to show much more HUSSLE out there, and if the laziness continues, then all eyes should turn to the coaching staff, if they haven't already done so. Carlyle just doesn't seem to be reaching them anymore.
dappleganger
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RedLeaf said:
Yeah, totally different club with him in the lineup.
Who knew? Now we just need Bolland back.
Zee
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RedLeaf said:
Seriously though, I used to discount Bozak since he's not a "true #1", but the team plays far differently with him in the lineup. When he's on his game, those important defensive zone faceoffs aren't as scary anymore. His defensive coverage is good too and he really helps that top line.
Kind of getting tired of the statement that Bozak is not a #1 center. 5 pts in two games, what else does anyone want from a #1 center. He is what we have. Time for people here to learn to live with it. Kadri is never going to to be better then a #2. lets praise the player who claims the team down when he is playing. Thank you Mr Bozak.... Just saying.
Zee
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nutman said:
No excuse for not winning the next 2 games. Leafs are rested since Wednesday before tonight's game and then don't play again until Tuesday. It then gets a bit dicey cause they travel for Thurs/Friday and Sunday...haven't been that great in back to backs this season and throw in travel to boot...not liking the chances in those Friday/Sunday games. Need to make hay in the next 3.
freer said:
Most fans on here are very quick to judge a player. while most like Kessel now, it was not always that way. This group are very slow to accept players, this is something that had drove me crazy for years and years. Bozak was tried and convicted of being not good enough long ago on this site. every time I used to brag up a good player the usual bunch on here shut him down, and as usual they got proved wrong. So just sit back and laugh as I do when the player excels, and they start bragging him up, as they always do.
GhostofPotvin29
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freer said:
He's playing very well right now, but surely you must see how ridiculous it sounds to proclaim someone a #1 C because of a 2-game sample size.
Then at the same time claim that Kadri is never going to be more than a #2. Well maybe he would if he was afforded the same longevity on the top line as Bozak gets, but it appears we'll never get to find that out. This is basically the 5th season Bozak has been on the 1st line, never getting bumped even when Kessel has slumped, yet Kadri gets 12 games or so and is considered not good enough because JVR/Kessel happened to slump in that time. Kadri's also 23 and in basically only his 2nd full-time season, and first real full season in the NHL.
Almost anyone can put up points over time with players the calibre of JVR/Kessel, as we saw for years with Sundin, but it doesn't necessarily make them 1st line calibre players. If it's the best the team can do, then so be it.
Highlander
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kadri is young enough to go to the third line and earn his way up. Holland should be on the 2nd line right now.
GhostofPotvin29
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freer said:
He wasn't on the top line for every game Bozak was out. And regardless, Bozak has had poor stretches of games and not been taken off the top line.
And Kadri is still on pace for 50 points this season playing all over the lineup, which would be higher than Bozak has ever attained in a season (Bozak was on pace for 50 pts/82 games during the lockout season).
He's plainly afforded more and longer opportunities on the top line, presumably for defensive purposes even though I'm not convinced he's much better defensively. I'll accept that, though. But I don't accept the belief that Kadri (a) hasn't been good or (b) isn't good enough for the Leafs top line.
Potvin29 said:
He also very rarely got the top PP time during that stretch, as Carlyle went with the 3 big wingers instead.