Leafs 2013/2014 Schedule in 10 game chunks

[GhostofPotvin29]

I don't see what's so hard to grasp about the concept of being happy when the team wins while not necessarily being happy about the overall play of the team.

It all depends on how much weight you're applying to each. I mean, if you're more upset about the way they're playing than you are happy about the winning record, then the confusion is understandable.

Why?  For one, how I enjoy or don't enjoy the games shouldn't really be of any concern or confusion to you.  Secondly, I'd personally rather they win more games because they are playing well than winning games because they're relying on the goalie to stand on their head all the time.  These games don't exist in a vacuum.  To me, that's more indicative of a strong overall team and one that I could legitimately expect to excel in the playoffs.

If you want reactions to only be about the result, why even watch the games?  Just look at the boxscore and be happy or sad if they won or lost?  (I'm just saying that to make a point, I don't actually think that's realistic)

I really don't care how you enjoy the games. I just wish more fans would spend their efforts exemplifying the positives than ripping apart all the weaknesses. I mean I understood this more when the team sucked. Now...not so much.

I've spent tons of time pointing out positives and pointing out how much I love to watch certain players.  In fact, I used to even start the 'Positive Thinking' thread.  I truly thought those Leafs teams played well and were let down by their goaltending.  Conversely, I think this Leafs team has, by and large, played poorly but been propped up by their goaltending.  There's no reason to get upset or be surprised over criticism of the team, it's healthy to always be critical in your analyses.  It's fine to be 100% content with the team and the season, but others aren't.  Simple as really.

 

[Redleaf]

I don't see what's so hard to grasp about the concept of being happy when the team wins while not necessarily being happy about the overall play of the team.

It all depends on how much weight you're applying to each. I mean, if you're more upset about the way they're playing than you are happy about the winning record, then the confusion is understandable.

Why?  For one, how I enjoy or don't enjoy the games shouldn't really be of any concern or confusion to you.  Secondly, I'd personally rather they win more games because they are playing well than winning games because they're relying on the goalie to stand on their head all the time.  These games don't exist in a vacuum.  To me, that's more indicative of a strong overall team and one that I could legitimately expect to excel in the playoffs.

If you want reactions to only be about the result, why even watch the games?  Just look at the boxscore and be happy or sad if they won or lost?  (I'm just saying that to make a point, I don't actually think that's realistic)

I really don't care how you enjoy the games. I just wish more fans would spend their efforts exemplifying the positives than ripping apart all the weaknesses. I mean I understood this more when the team sucked. Now...not so much.

I've spent tons of time pointing out positives and pointing out how much I love to watch certain players.  In fact, I used to even start the 'Positive Thinking' thread.  I truly thought those Leafs teams played well and were let down by their goaltending.  Conversely, I think this Leafs team has, by and large, played poorly but been propped up by their goaltending.  There's no reason to get upset or be surprised over criticism of the team, it's healthy to always be critical in your analyses.  It's fine to be 100% content with the team and the season, but others aren't.  Simple as really.

But it's alright to be propped up by the goaltender. That's what he's supposed to do. This is a team that needs that cushion right now while they find their game. They played an all-around sound game last night. They are getting better.......enjoy it........carry on.....

 

[Guru Tugginmypuddah]

You should have a column for shot differential, so we can tell if we are allowed to be happy with this chunk.

Should not all be happy with the chuck due to the wins vs loses. Who cares about the shots. Really when the end product is a win and 2 pts.

thanks for the spelling leason Zee

Much appreciated

Just a harmless joke freer. 

Exactly how it was taken.. Nothing wrong with a little friendly ribbing, and I know my spelling sinks. 8)

 

[Andy007]

I don't see what's so hard to grasp about the concept of being happy when the team wins while not necessarily being happy about the overall play of the team.

It all depends on how much weight you're applying to each. I mean, if you're more upset about the way they're playing than you are happy about the winning record, then the confusion is understandable.

Why?  For one, how I enjoy or don't enjoy the games shouldn't really be of any concern or confusion to you.  Secondly, I'd personally rather they win more games because they are playing well than winning games because they're relying on the goalie to stand on their head all the time.  These games don't exist in a vacuum.  To me, that's more indicative of a strong overall team and one that I could legitimately expect to excel in the playoffs.

If you want reactions to only be about the result, why even watch the games?  Just look at the boxscore and be happy or sad if they won or lost?  (I'm just saying that to make a point, I don't actually think that's realistic)

I really don't care how you enjoy the games. I just wish more fans would spend their efforts accentuating the positives rather than dwelling on the weaknesses. I understood this more when the team sucked. Now...not so much.

This team gets outplayed by bottom feeders on a consistent basis. They are unable to clear the puck out of their zone for significant stretches of time. They give up almost 40 shots per GAME. The team is a giant train wreck; it would take an unabashed homer to the nth degree to watch these games and not spew out some kind of negative rhetoric. Goaltending has, literally, single-handedly propelled the Leafs into a playoff spot. If some people want to focus solely on the wins, well, that's their prerogative, but it's preposterous to suggest that people shouldn't be paying attention to these blatant, aggressive and downright ominous warning signs.

 

[Zee]

I don't see what's so hard to grasp about the concept of being happy when the team wins while not necessarily being happy about the overall play of the team.

It all depends on how much weight you're applying to each. I mean, if you're more upset about the way they're playing than you are happy about the winning record, then the confusion is understandable.

Why?  For one, how I enjoy or don't enjoy the games shouldn't really be of any concern or confusion to you.  Secondly, I'd personally rather they win more games because they are playing well than winning games because they're relying on the goalie to stand on their head all the time.  These games don't exist in a vacuum.  To me, that's more indicative of a strong overall team and one that I could legitimately expect to excel in the playoffs.

If you want reactions to only be about the result, why even watch the games?  Just look at the boxscore and be happy or sad if they won or lost?  (I'm just saying that to make a point, I don't actually think that's realistic)

I really don't care how you enjoy the games. I just wish more fans would spend their efforts exemplifying the positives than ripping apart all the weaknesses. I mean I understood this more when the team sucked. Now...not so much.

I've spent tons of time pointing out positives and pointing out how much I love to watch certain players.  In fact, I used to even start the 'Positive Thinking' thread.  I truly thought those Leafs teams played well and were let down by their goaltending.  Conversely, I think this Leafs team has, by and large, played poorly but been propped up by their goaltending.  There's no reason to get upset or be surprised over criticism of the team, it's healthy to always be critical in your analyses.  It's fine to be 100% content with the team and the season, but others aren't.  Simple as really.

But it's alright to be propped up by the goaltender. That's what he's supposed to do. This is a team that needs that cushion right now while they find their game. They played an all-around sound game last night. They are getting better.......enjoy it........carry on.....

I'm a simple man, I just look at wins/losses and the standings.  This is why i've started this 10-game chunk thread.  I look at 10 game segments and figure if the team can win 5-6 games each chunk, we're well into the playoffs.  Everything else is secondary.

 

[freer]

I don't see what's so hard to grasp about the concept of being happy when the team wins while not necessarily being happy about the overall play of the team.

It all depends on how much weight you're applying to each. I mean, if you're more upset about the way they're playing than you are happy about the winning record, then the confusion is understandable.

Why?  For one, how I enjoy or don't enjoy the games shouldn't really be of any concern or confusion to you.  Secondly, I'd personally rather they win more games because they are playing well than winning games because they're relying on the goalie to stand on their head all the time.  These games don't exist in a vacuum.  To me, that's more indicative of a strong overall team and one that I could legitimately expect to excel in the playoffs.

If you want reactions to only be about the result, why even watch the games?  Just look at the boxscore and be happy or sad if they won or lost?  (I'm just saying that to make a point, I don't actually think that's realistic)

I really don't care how you enjoy the games. I just wish more fans would spend their efforts exemplifying the positives than ripping apart all the weaknesses. I mean I understood this more when the team sucked. Now...not so much.

I've spent tons of time pointing out positives and pointing out how much I love to watch certain players.  In fact, I used to even start the 'Positive Thinking' thread.  I truly thought those Leafs teams played well and were let down by their goaltending.  Conversely, I think this Leafs team has, by and large, played poorly but been propped up by their goaltending.  There's no reason to get upset or be surprised over criticism of the team, it's healthy to always be critical in your analyses.  It's fine to be 100% content with the team and the season, but others aren't.  Simple as really.

But it's alright to be propped up by the goaltender. That's what he's supposed to do. This is a team that needs that cushion right now while they find their game. They played an all-around sound game last night. They are getting better.......enjoy it........carry on.....

I'm a simple man, I just look at wins/losses and the standings.  This is why i've started this 10-game chunk thread.  I look at 10 game segments and figure if the team can win 5-6 games each chunk, we're well into the playoffs.  Everything else is secondary.

Sounds like a sound thought process to me. Carry On then.

 

[Highlander]

I like Chuck theory much better than string theory.

 

[hockeyfan1]

The Leafs are not a perfect team, never were, never will be.  We can then just be happy and enjoy their latest surge to at or near the top of their respective division. 

One more game before the Olympic break.  Win or lose, I'm feeling positive and hopeful they'll continue winning after the break.

"Keep calm and carry on!"

GO LEAFS GO!!!

 

[Deebo]

I don't see what's so hard to grasp about the concept of being happy when the team wins while not necessarily being happy about the overall play of the team.

I was joking.

 

[Highlander]

"Keep Calm and Drink On" you mean??Stay thirsty my friends.

 

[Arn]

There are absolutely aspects of the Leafs games to enjoy. I'm a fan of a good goalie. Ed Belfour probably remains my favourite player of my time as a leafs fan. Thus I enjoy watching both Reimer and particularly Bernier performing to the levels they have.

I've enjoyed watching Kessel become a more rounded player and even more deadly player. I've enjoyed watching Kadri develop and I suspect he could turn into a super player.

But at the same time I find it very frustrating as I feel the team could be even better than it is.

 

[Redleaf]

There are absolutely aspects of the Leafs games to enjoy. I'm a fan of a good goalie. Ed Belfour probably remains my favourite player of my time as a leafs fan. Thus I enjoy watching both Reimer and particularly Bernier performing to the levels they have.

I've enjoyed watching Kessel become a more rounded player and even more deadly player. I've enjoyed watching Kadri develop and I suspect he could turn into a super player.

But at the same time I find it very frustrating as I feel the team could be even better than it is.

It's hard to be patient, but there are signs that this team in on the rise. Gardiner, Bernier, JVR, Reilly, Kadri and Holland all look like they will become real good players for the Leafs. There may be a few more guys in the organization now that could also be part that group when all is said and done. They just need time to grow and mature. When that happens and if Nonis can add a few more key pieces, the consistency factor should start to sort itself out, and they should become a legitimate contender. I'm guessing another 2-3 seasons before we realize the full potential of this team.

 

[hap_leaf]

Its a lot better for pure entertainment right now than it was say 2008-10.  I honestly didn't enjoy watching any of the players much.  Maybe Grabovski.
Now, I would pay to go see this team and about 10 of them I'm amazed at their talent.

 

[bustaheims]

I really don't care how you enjoy the games. I just wish more fans would spend their efforts accentuating the positives rather than dwelling on the weaknesses. I understood this more when the team sucked. Now...not so much.

I'm sorry that some of us simply can't ignore some of the glaringly obvious facts about this team and what they likely mean in terms of real success. Their record is wonderful and all, but, having watched almost every minute they've played this season, I also know that it's really deceptive and not at all indicative of how they've played. That's what I'm upset with. This team is not as good as their record, and, until they are, I won't be satisfied with that record. I want a team that looks like it's actually going somewhere, not a team where everything about their on-ice play tells me that it's just a matter of time until the bubble bursts.

 

[Kin]

I'm sorry that some of us simply can't ignore some of the glaringly obvious facts about this team and what they likely mean in terms of real success.

You don't suppose there's some room between "dwell on" and "ignore"?

 

[bustaheims]

I'm sorry that some of us simply can't ignore some of the glaringly obvious facts about this team and what they likely mean in terms of real success.

You don't suppose there's some room between "dwell on" and "ignore"?

Nope. We're clearly living in a black and white world here, Nik. We can only deal in absolutes.

 

[Kin]

Nope. We're clearly living in a black and white world here, Nik. We can only deal in absolutes.

Well, I think that's the thing here that Deebo's(funny, I thought) joke sort of hits on. I mean, I know the shot differential isn't good. I know they've disappointed at times. I just think, at some point, it becomes kind of a tedious thing to talk about. It's gotten to the point now where I, as someone who likes this board and posts too much on it, really look forward to Leafs wins in fairly substantial part because it means the conversation might be about something other than firing Carlyle and even then 50% of the time it is.

And there are some people who seem to be posting about nothing else but the bursting bubble. Not you, for one thing you also post too much for that to be true, but some.

I mean, I get it. If you were playing blackjack with some pals and one of them kept hitting on 19 you'd think it was a stupid thing to do no matter how many 2's kept coming up. But there's a line between thinking that every time and saying it everytime.

 

[Britishbulldog]

Should not all be happy with the chuck due to the wins vs loses. Who cares about the shots. Really when the end product is a win and 2 pts.

thanks for the spelling leason Zee

Much appreciated

Just a harmless joke freer. 

Exactly how it was taken.. Nothing wrong with a little friendly ribbing, and I know my spelling sinks. 8)

Man, Looking at Zee's diagram I could make a comment on how close that rib is to 'chuck' but....

 

[Andy007]

Nope. We're clearly living in a black and white world here, Nik. We can only deal in absolutes.

If you were playing blackjack with some pals and one of them kept hitting on 19 you'd think it was a stupid thing to do no matter how many 2's kept coming up. But there's a line between thinking that every time and saying it everytime.

Are you kidding? If my buddy kept hitting on 19 and kept getting 2's you can be sure I would be saying something every single time... And that's even without being on a message board devoted to blackjack analysis and chat.

 

[Rebel_1812]

Randy has only coached 3 half seasons so far and has made the playoffs once.  I don't remember Wilson getting it so bad as a coach until the very end.  Which is surprising because Wilson sucked big time.