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Leafs @ Lightning - Dec. 29th, 7:30pm - SNO, Fan 590

Tigger said:
TBLeafer said:
Tigger said:
TBLeafer said:
bustaheims said:
Nik the Trik said:
Gosh. It's not like those questions were cherry picked. You've convinced me for definite.

It's almost like having your goaltending put up a Sv% of ~.950 reduces goals against significantly, even when the team is giving up 32+ shots on a regular basis.

You guys are funny. You're stubbornness to hold onto a majorly flawed ideal actually makes me smile.  :)

What majorly flawed ideal would that be?

Wanting another top 5 draft pick.  Its all the wrong kind of greedy.

What does that have to do with you cherry picking stats?

I didn't cherry pick anything, I just asked a couple questions.

How they perceived is not my fault.
 
TBLeafer said:
Nik the Trik said:
TBLeafer said:
Reality check time. Our D is getting pretty good as is.

Sure.

I'll let you do the work.

Starter or backup, how many goals were allowed this road trip?

How many shots allowed with Bibeau in net?

People are referring to this as cherry picking stats to support your claim that the Leafs defense is fine. When this is pointed out you start talking about a majorly flawed ideal that no one is talking about.

 
Tigger said:
TBLeafer said:
Nik the Trik said:
TBLeafer said:
Reality check time. Our D is getting pretty good as is.

Sure.

I'll let you do the work.

Starter or backup, how many goals were allowed this road trip?

How many shots allowed with Bibeau in net?

People are referring to this as cherry picking stats to support your claim that the Leafs defense is fine. When this is pointed out you start talking about a majorly flawed ideal that no one is talking about.

I didn't provide stats. So I didn't cherry pick and our defence IS improving.

You disagree?
 
TBLeafer said:
I didn't provide stats. So I didn't cherry pick and our defence IS improving.

Oh get real. You asked those questions knowing the answers. Shockingly, shots against only mattered to you in the one game where the Leafs did well. Those weren't genuine inquiries looking for information, those were rhetorical questions of careful chosen criteria(or cherry-picked, to use a colloquialism) intended to prove a point.

We've all been doing this for a long time. You're not as clever, and far more transparent, than you think you are. You are the epitome of the old maxim of misusing statistics the way a drunk misuses a lamppost.
 
TBLeafer said:
Tigger said:
TBLeafer said:
Nik the Trik said:
TBLeafer said:
Reality check time. Our D is getting pretty good as is.

Sure.

I'll let you do the work.

Starter or backup, how many goals were allowed this road trip?

How many shots allowed with Bibeau in net?

People are referring to this as cherry picking stats to support your claim that the Leafs defense is fine. When this is pointed out you start talking about a majorly flawed ideal that no one is talking about.

I didn't provide stats. So I didn't cherry pick and our defence IS improving.

You disagree?

Are you freaking serious? Now you're arguing that you're not trying to back up your claim with those numbers?

Get bent.
 
Also how is wanting another top five pick flawed? You can argue there are shorter routes to sustained winning, but getting another top five pick is not a flawed desire. And it's not greedy either. It's sports, there is no greedy for fans.
 
Tigger said:
TBLeafer said:
Tigger said:
TBLeafer said:
Nik the Trik said:
TBLeafer said:
Reality check time. Our D is getting pretty good as is.

Sure.

I'll let you do the work.

Starter or backup, how many goals were allowed this road trip?

How many shots allowed with Bibeau in net?

People are referring to this as cherry picking stats to support your claim that the Leafs defense is fine. When this is pointed out you start talking about a majorly flawed ideal that no one is talking about.

I didn't provide stats. So I didn't cherry pick and our defence IS improving.

You disagree?

Are you freaking serious? Now you're arguing that you're not trying to back up your claim with those numbers?

Get bent.

I just didn't look them up prior to posting. But thanks for legitimizing my theory.

I imagine that on average, the Leafs have been handily outshooting their opponents, which would support a theory that the defence isn't all that bad as made out by many and Andersen has said he can see the vast majority of his shots.
 
Bill_Berg said:
Also how is wanting another top five pick flawed? You can argue there are shorter routes to sustained winning, but getting another top five pick is not a flawed desire. And it's not greedy either. It's sports, there is no greedy for fans.

It's flawed because the Leafs presently enjoy a winning culture that they're trying to build on.
 
Nik the Trik said:
McGarnagle said:
The only thing I find flawed is how easily you guys take the bait.

If nobody takes the bait pretty soon the entire place is nothing but worms.

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