Leafs @ Penguins - Nov. 26th, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590

[Joe S.]

Why is it now that the broadcast team, I guess specifically Healy, mock analytics?

If the redwings, for example, had a dedicated analytics team, I would guess that we'd be hearing how they are on the leading edge and other teams should follow suit. The Leafs do it, and they're a bunch of idiots looking at star charts or using voodoo or something.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Why is it now that the broadcast team, I guess specifically Healy, mock analytics?

If the redwings, for example, had a dedicated analytics team, I would guess that we'd be hearing how they are on the leading edge and other teams should follow suit. The Leafs do it, and they're a bunch of idiots looking at star charts or using voodoo or something.

The funniest part is that they were showing their "analytics" and saying that they showed the Leafs were better but were still down 2-0, when in reality the actual analytics that the people they were mocking use showed that the score probably accurately reflected how the 1st period had gone.

 

[Coco-puffs]

Just remembering this now, not sure if it has been brought up earlier - but did it annoy anyone else after all the icings the Leafs got, that they overturned that icing call against the Pens early in OT?

Someone posted this image of the play:

Hard to say, but it looks like Franson had Crosby beat to the hashmarks.

There was one earlier in the game where the puck slowly crossed the red line in the Pens zone basically at the same time as JVR and a Pens player both were about to get to it and they still called it icing.

I believe it was called back because Crosby/whoever dumped the puck in from the correct side of the red-line (ie, it didn't matter who "won the race" because it wasn't icing in the first place).

 

[louisstamos]

Why is it now that the broadcast team, I guess specifically Healy, mock analytics?

If the redwings, for example, had a dedicated analytics team, I would guess that we'd be hearing how they are on the leading edge and other teams should follow suit. The Leafs do it, and they're a bunch of idiots looking at star charts or using voodoo or something.

The funniest part is that they were showing their "analytics" and saying that they showed the Leafs were better but were still down 2-0, when in reality the actual analytics that the people they were mocking use showed that the score probably accurately reflected how the 1st period had gone.

Hahaha...I'm glad this was brought up.  I actually tweeted these both last night:

Louis Tentsos @louistentsos  ?  16h 16 hours ago
I'm not sure if the Sportsnet announcers know what analytics actually are...

Louis Tentsos @louistentsos  ?  16h 16 hours ago
Quote of the night: "I think Jeff Healy could analyze the game better than Glenn Healy. Yes, I'm aware he's blind... And dead..." #TMLtalk

 

[Bender]

Why is it now that the broadcast team, I guess specifically Healy, mock analytics?

If the redwings, for example, had a dedicated analytics team, I would guess that we'd be hearing how they are on the leading edge and other teams should follow suit. The Leafs do it, and they're a bunch of idiots looking at star charts or using voodoo or something.

The funniest part is that they were showing their "analytics" and saying that they showed the Leafs were better but were still down 2-0, when in reality the actual analytics that the people they were mocking use showed that the score probably accurately reflected how the 1st period had gone.

They were also mocking something very marginally related to analytics.

More shots for Leafs, better FO%, but fewer goals. ANALYTICS.

I mean, come on.

 

[herman]

Why is it now that the broadcast team, I guess specifically Healy, mock analytics?

If the redwings, for example, had a dedicated analytics team, I would guess that we'd be hearing how they are on the leading edge and other teams should follow suit. The Leafs do it, and they're a bunch of idiots looking at star charts or using voodoo or something.

The funniest part is that they were showing their "analytics" and saying that they showed the Leafs were better but were still down 2-0, when in reality the actual analytics that the people they were mocking use showed that the score probably accurately reflected how the 1st period had gone.

Hahaha...I'm glad this was brought up.  I actually tweeted these both last night:

Louis Tentsos @louistentsos  ?  16h 16 hours ago
I'm not sure if the Sportsnet announcers know what analytics actually are...

Louis Tentsos @louistentsos  ?  16h 16 hours ago
Quote of the night: "I think Jeff Healy could analyze the game better than Glenn Healy. Yes, I'm aware he's blind... And dead..." #TMLtalk

panel.

Haha, nice.

I feel bad for Elliotte Friedman having to sit on the Sportsnet hockey panel.

They were also mocking something very marginally related to analytics.

More shots for Leafs, better FO%, but fewer goals. ANALYTICS.

I mean, come on.

I don't know how connected they are to the team that puts the graphics up, but it was kind of served up for mockery.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

But really, it should go without saying that as a professional athlete and human being, Crosby has had and will yet have numerous games in which he's fairly ordinary, though his exceptional games will of course far outnumber the ordinary ones.

Right, so, for emphasis

You know, I'm sure guys like Crosby and Malkin have games like Kessel's tonight but I'll be damned if I've ever seen one.

Got it, my bad. I guess I could also make such a pronouncement from my experiences in watching Syl Apps and Howie Morenz play, as I also never watched them have an ordinary game.

 

[hockeyfan1]

Enjoyed watching last night's Leafs/Penguins tilt. It looked more like a playoff game with it's high intensity -- an uptempo game that saw our Leafs go skate for skate, puck for puck, and hit for hit with Pittsburgh.

Impressed with the total team effort, getting results from all lines and giving Pittsburgh a tough time out there.  It isn't often that we see the Leafs play so cohesively and consistently throughout a game, but against the Pens, no matter the score, the Leafs were persistent.

Too bad for the OT.  But it's a positive that the team can continue to build on, as Carlyle mentioned.

BTW, when Komarov scores, the Leafs are a perfect 6-0.

Good game, good effort.  Now, if only we could find a way to keep the Pens' #87 & #71 off the scoresheet...

 

[Deebo]

BTW, when Komarov scores, the Leafs are a perfect 6-0.

How is that even possible?

Yesterday's goals were his 3rd and 4th of season.

 

[bustaheims]

BTW, when Komarov scores, the Leafs are a perfect 6-0.

How is that even possible?

Yesterday's goals were his 3rd and 4th of season.

Science?

It's not just this season. It's in his entire career. Also, it's 6-0-1, now.

 

[Bullfrog]

BTW, when Komarov scores, the Leafs are a perfect 6-0.

How is that even possible?

Yesterday's goals were his 3rd and 4th of season.

That was posted during the game by TSN and was true at the time. Obviously it doesn't apply any longer.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

BTW, when Komarov scores, the Leafs are a perfect 6-0.

How is that even possible?

Yesterday's goals were his 3rd and 4th of season.

That was posted during the game by TSN and was true at the time. Obviously it doesn't apply any longer.

6-0 lifetime record when Komarov scores, so that goes back to the half season.

edit: Well, 6-0-1 now.

 

[Deebo]

BTW, when Komarov scores, the Leafs are a perfect 6-0.

How is that even possible?

Yesterday's goals were his 3rd and 4th of season.

That was posted during the game by TSN and was true at the time. Obviously it doesn't apply any longer.

It was 6-0 that made me wonder, since he only had 2 goals before yesterday. He couldn't have scored in 6 games if he scored 2 goals.

Carlton points out that that it goes back to two seasons ago.

 

[L K]

I don't want to cheer for bad things to happen but that 2nd PP unit was awful.  Clarkson taking a stupid penalty that led to a Pittsburgh goal was just icing on that cake.  He's on a 26 point pace.  His play is somewhat better than last year in that he's throwing some hits and not falling down as much but he's just a bad hockey player.  I honestly can't wait for his buyout in a year or two.

That penalty on Clarkson was kinda bull though, you could call that a dozen times a game. He's had a bunch of iffy calls go against him this season for whatever reason. Agree with everything else you said. Clarkson is literally the last forward in this line-up that I want on the powerplay.

I agree that it was a wishy-washy penalty, but it's a play that was completely unnecessary on Clarkson's part.  It didn't actually help him accomplish anything and to me is a prime reason for why he shouldn't be on the PP in the first place.  He's tied for 18th in the league in minor penalties taken with 10.    He's 1st on the team for forwards in penalties taken.  He takes 3 penalties for every 1 drawn and most of his penalties are for hooking/holding/tripping and not "physical" penalties (roughing, boarding, checking from behind).

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Someone mentioned it last night, but Holzer played like a guy with no intention of ever playing an AHL game.

 

[Highlander]

Didnt see the game, how did Cody play, his play this year is so much improved?
Also interested to hear about Booth and Lupul. Did they show rust?
Good to find Holzer wants to stay.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

BTW, when Komarov scores, the Leafs are a perfect 6-0.

How is that even possible?

Yesterday's goals were his 3rd and 4th of season.

Science?

It's not just this season. It's in his entire career. Also, it's 6-0-1, now.

Steve Dangle argued that the Leafs remain 6-0 when Komarov scores a goal.  Dude scored too much last night, cost the team a win.

 

[Highlander]

Telling the Komrade to score only once is like asking him to speak 1 language when he speaks 5 or 6.  The man is a machine with a good stash.