Leafs sign Michael Hutchinson

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/1322184778595110912

I suggested that they would do this, but that was prior to the Dell signing. A little odd to have him back now.

One explanation is that it does satisfy the expansion draft requirement of needing to expose a goalie under contract in 21/22.

Maybe some insurance in case Dell doesn't go through waivers too, although I expect he will.

 

[L K]

Probably not a bad idea to have more NHL ready goaltenders in the system this year too.  If Freddy/Campbell get hurt/get COVID it might not be the best approach to have Woll or Scott forced to play in the NHL this year.

 

[Zee]

Yeah why not

 

[bustaheims]

Lol. This is almost certainly for expansion draft purposes.

Hutch was pretty decent in the AHL, though. So, as long as he only plays for the Marlies, it's all good.

 

[herman]

I love this chaos

 

[Guilt Trip]

One explanation is that it does satisfy the expansion draft requirement of needing to expose a goalie under contract in 21/22.

Maybe some insurance in case Dell doesn't go through waivers too, although I expect he will.

I don't think it has much to do with Dell. Dell will be pushing for the backup role. There's no guarantee Campbell is #2 yet.
I think this move is purely for the Expansion Draft seeing he's on a 2 year contract.
By all accounts though, players love him and at worst, he's a good mentor for the kids(Scott, Woll).

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I don't think it has much to do with Dell. Dell will be pushing for the backup role. There's no guarantee Campbell is #2 yet.

Nah, barring Campbell having an absolute crapshow of a training camp and then like kicking a bunch of puppies or something he has the back-up spot locked down.

 

[Frank E]

I'll eat my hat if Campbell isn't backing up Andersen this coming season.

Unless all hell breaks loose on the injury front, Hutch will be playing for the Marlies.

I think this sort of signing shows that the Leafs really don't have enough young goaltending talent, and really haven't produced a player since Reimer.

 

[Joe S.]

I think this sort of signing shows that the Leafs really don't have enough young goaltending talent, and really haven't produced a player since Reimer.

As you mention that it just hit me thinking that since I started watching the leafs, which was in 89, they have drafted 2 star level goalies; Potvin and rask. That is pathetic over a 30 year span.

What is it with this team and goalies.

 

[Kin]

I think this sort of signing shows that the Leafs really don't have enough young goaltending talent, and really haven't produced a player since Reimer.

As you mention that it just hit me thinking that since I started watching the leafs, which was in 89, they have drafted 2 star level goalies; Potvin and rask. That is pathetic over a 30 year span.

Is it? I mean, just off the top of my head the Devils have only drafted two goalies who were stars over the same stretch in Brodeur and Schneider(assuming we're not counting Mike Dunham). Have the Avalanche drafted any besides maybe Varlamov? Have the Stars drafted anyone other than Turco?

I mean, my math may be off here but if you figure that over a 30 year span there are 10 individual seasons by a goalie per year that are "star level" for and that some guys like Roy or Brodeur have 10-15 years at that level then you figure that there are roughly around 80 or 90 goalies at most who have been "star level" for any length of time over 30 years and drafting 2 or 3 is probably the average.

 

[Joe S.]

I started thinking that after I hit submit... that?s a fair analysis.

I guess I?m still bitter over the rask trade.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

I think this sort of signing shows that the Leafs really don't have enough young goaltending talent, and really haven't produced a player since Reimer.

As you mention that it just hit me thinking that since I started watching the leafs, which was in 89, they have drafted 2 star level goalies; Potvin and rask. That is pathetic over a 30 year span.

Is it? I mean, just off the top of my head the Devils have only drafted two goalies who were stars over the same stretch in Brodeur and Schneider(assuming we're not counting Mike Dunham). Have the Avalanche drafted any besides maybe Varlamov? Have the Stars drafted anyone other than Turco?

I mean, my math may be off here but if you figure that over a 30 year span there are 10 individual seasons by a goalie per year that are "star level" for and that some guys like Roy or Brodeur have 10-15 years at that level then you figure that there are roughly around 80 or 90 goalies at most who have been "star level" for any length of time over 30 years and drafting 2 or 3 is probably the average.

I don't disagree with any of this, but would note that Cory Schneider was drafted by Vancouver, not New Jersey.

 

[Kin]

I don't disagree with any of this, but would note that Cory Schneider was drafted by Vancouver, not New Jersey.

Well, there you go.

Also, it is worth saying that the Leafs probably got the least actual goaltending out of their 2 star goalie picks of anyone.

 

[Guilt Trip]

I think this sort of signing shows that the Leafs really don't have enough young goaltending talent, and really haven't produced a player since Reimer.

As you mention that it just hit me thinking that since I started watching the leafs, which was in 89, they have drafted 2 star level goalies; Potvin and rask. That is pathetic over a 30 year span.

What is it with this team and goalies.

Guess how many Boston drafted that turned out since 90? They've drafted 23 and only 3 have done ok. John Grahame(224gm), Raycroft(280gm), Hutch(127gm).
Habs have drafted 20 and 5 have had great success. Vokun(700), Theodore(648)(Both drafted in 94 also). Garon(341)Halak(520), Price(682). Edmonton has one Dubnyk(520) out of 31.
I would also consider Reimer as a success. You don't play in 363 NHL if you're crap.

 

[Joe S.]

Yeah yeah I get it. My assessment was wrong.

Reimer is fine as a middle of the pack goalie. But he?s no star.

 

[Guilt Trip]

I don't disagree with any of this, but would note that Cory Schneider was drafted by Vancouver, not New Jersey.

Well, there you go.

Also, it is worth saying that the Leafs probably got the least actual goaltending out of their 2 star goalie picks of anyone.

I wouldn't. Edmonton. Boston to name a few. Potvin was outstanding for the Leafs.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Yeah yeah I get it. My assessment was wrong.

Reimer is fine as a middle of the pack goalie. But he?s no star.

No but he's still a solid backup NHL goalie. If we're going just stars then Boston hasn't drafted 1 in 30 years.

 

[Frank E]

DRAFTED PLAYERS				
RND	#	PLAYER	SEASONS	GP
2020				
4	#106	 Artur Akhtyamov (G)		
2018				
7	#209	 Zachary Bouthillier (G)		
2017				
4	#110	 Ian Scott (G)		
2016				
3	#62	 Joseph Woll (G)	1	0
2013				
6	#172	 Antoine Bibeau (G)	3	4
2011				
7	#190	 Garret Sparks (G)	5	38
2008				
6	#158	 Grant Rollheiser (G)		
2006				
4	#99	 James Reimer (G)	11	363
2005				
1	#21	 Tuukka Rask (G)	14	536
2004				
3	#90	 Justin Pogge (G)	3	7
2002				
3	#74	 Todd Ford (G)	1	0
2001				
7	#213	 J?n Chovan (G)		
2000				
3	#70	 Mikael Tellqvist (G)	7	114
3	#90	 Jean-Fran?ois Racine (G)	1	0
1999				
7	#211	 Vladimir Kulikov (G)		
1998				
3	#69	 Jamie Hodson (G)	1	0
1996				
2	#50	 Francis Lariv?e (G)	1	0
1995				
6	#139	 Doug Bonner (G)		
1994				
1	#16	 ?ric Fichaud (G)	6	95
1993				
8	#201	 David Brumby (G)	1	0
1990				
2	#31	 F?lix Potvin (G)	13	635
9	#178	 Robert Horyna (G)		
1988				
3	#48	 Peter Ing (G)	4	74
11	#216	 Mike Gregorio (G)		
1987				
6	#112	 Damian Rhodes (G)	10	309
1985				
12	#232	 Mitch Murphy (G)		
1984				
4	#67	 Jeff Reese (G)	11	174
1983				
3	#48	 Allan Bester (G)	10	219
1982				
3	#45	 Ken Wregget (G)	17	575
12	#234	 James Appleby (G)		
1980				
6	#116	 Ron Dennis (G)		
1979				
4	#72	 Vincent Tremblay (G)	5	58
1978				
4	#65	 Bob Parent (G)	2	3
1975				
12	#188	 Ken Holland (G)	2	4
1974				
5	#85	 Mike Palmateer (G)	8	356
10	#170	 Andy Stoesz (G)		
1973				
7	#100	 Dan Follett (G)		
1970				
8	#103	 Ron Low (G)	11	382

 

[Kin]

I wouldn't. Edmonton. Boston to name a few. Potvin was outstanding for the Leafs.

It's interesting. I put the number of "star" seasons at 300 and goalies who had them at 80 or 90 but I wonder what the real numbers would be. Reimer's an interesting example of someone who had a season you could probably call a "Star" season(playing 2/3's of his team's games, top 10 in SV%) but obviously in a weird situation of a lockout shortened year.

 

[Bender]

I wouldn't. Edmonton. Boston to name a few. Potvin was outstanding for the Leafs.

It's interesting. I put the number of "star" seasons at 300 and goalies who had them at 80 or 90 but I wonder what the real numbers would be. Reimer's an interesting example of someone who had a season you could probably call a "Star" season(playing 2/3's of his team's games, top 10 in SV%) but obviously in a weird situation of a lockout shortened year.

I think his best years were squandered on truly atrocious Leafs teams. I wonder what he'd look like when he was 26 on a good team. I find it actually kind of remarkable he put up the numbers he did over the years. Apart from the Sharks and MAYBE Carolina this year he's basically been playing for bottom tier teams.