Leafs trade Kadri+ to Colorado for Barrie+
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Guilt Trip
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I think he's a little better at both ends of the rink.Frycer14 said:
Phileas Fogg
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I'm just saying- relative to Dubas' quote about "owing it/improvements"; if Barrie is Gardiner's more or less equivalent, and Ceci is more or less Zaitsev's equivalent, then the only "improvement" to the D from last year to date is the hope that internal options will improve upon Hainsey's minutes.
Am I missing something substantial?
Am I missing something substantial?
herman
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Rielly - Ceci
Muzzin - Barrie
Marincin/Harpur - Holl
Overall we are looking at an offensively equivalent group from the beginning of last season, but improved on defensive mobility (exits and entries) due to the shedding of Zaitsev and Hainsey. Essentially we?ve covered the loss of Gardiner temporarily to tide the group over until Sandin-Liljegren.
Muzzin - Barrie
Marincin/Harpur - Holl
Overall we are looking at an offensively equivalent group from the beginning of last season, but improved on defensive mobility (exits and entries) due to the shedding of Zaitsev and Hainsey. Essentially we?ve covered the loss of Gardiner temporarily to tide the group over until Sandin-Liljegren.
dappleganger
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Barrie isn?t the guy I wanted the Leafs to target. There?s a reason he was in the rumour mill to be traded the last 4 years. I think Leafs fans are going to be disappointed with his ability to play defence.
https://milehighsticking.com/2018/07/31/colorado-avalanche-evaluation-areas-improvement-tyson-barrie/
https://milehighsticking.com/2018/07/31/colorado-avalanche-evaluation-areas-improvement-tyson-barrie/
Guilt Trip
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Not that I'm going to argue the point but that's from last year, 2018. We'll see how he does with Muzzin and at 2.75, the risk isn't high especially if Kerfoot can keep popping 40+ points..Dappleganger said:
Heroic Shrimp
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Nik the Trik said:
For sure! But hey, 50, it's been so long since you've posted that the Cap is now 81.5, and at a minimum you're now going to have to hit the floor of 60.2 Mission Cap.
This is a great trade. Kadri really put his team in a bad position 2 years in a row when it mattered most. His last moment as a leaf was the hit that led to him watching games from the press box. It was time to move.
Leafs D gonna be a bit better next year. Dubas with a strong July 1.
Leafs D gonna be a bit better next year. Dubas with a strong July 1.
Heroic Shrimp
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lc9 said:
Barring serious injury to another player, I'll never stop laughing if Kadri gets suspended again in the first round of the playoffs.
dappleganger
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herman said:It?s cute that you think this team will play defence
Yeah, exactly.
ZBBM
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This is the trade that had to come, and Dubas pulled off a good one. The salary retention is really something of a coup, since we usually come out on the short end of the stick on those. And getting a cheaper replacement for Kadri as 3C, w/o too much dropoff in talent, is excellent work.
How long we'll be able to keep Rielly, Muzz, and Barrie is another matter for another day....
I'm still skeptical that this kind of defense will work in the playoffs. I really hope they can lose Ceci and do something about that to help Muzzin out.
Sorry to see Nazem have to go before the team actually contends. His career looked like it was going off the rails a few years ago but he straightened his attitude out and became a really effective player.
Colorado is going to have a hell of a team.
How long we'll be able to keep Rielly, Muzz, and Barrie is another matter for another day....
I'm still skeptical that this kind of defense will work in the playoffs. I really hope they can lose Ceci and do something about that to help Muzzin out.
Sorry to see Nazem have to go before the team actually contends. His career looked like it was going off the rails a few years ago but he straightened his attitude out and became a really effective player.
Colorado is going to have a hell of a team.
Mot the Barber
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Well they upgraded where they needed it most and moved a player with self-control issues.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Because of this, I'm starting to think the Leafs really need to go for it this season. Get Marner signed to the cheapest bridge deal you can manage, dump Ceci, and use all that extra cap space to improve for the short-term as much as possible.
Guilt Trip
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Great day for Dubas and the Leafs. No complaints from me. Didn't like seeing Brown go but was necessary. Kadri's fate was sealed in the playoffs. He had to go but the return was very good.
ZBBM
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CarltonTheBear said:
Maybe. A worstish-case scenario would be if Muzzin and Barrie both really click and we (say) lost in the finals. They'd be due raises we can't afford. What worries me even more is that at some point we may not be able to afford Rielly if he keeps playing at this past season's level.
herman
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Not sure why people keep bringing up the suspensions as the reason for the trade... actually I do know why: easy narrative.
Kadri was the best trade chit we could afford to move on from under the right circumstances for an RD (thanks to Kerfoot). He?s 30 at great cap value and has scored 30 goals before. Trading Nylander is asinine. Kapanen or Johnsson are individually not enough for anything worthwhile. This was simply the cost of doing the business of trading from strength to shore up a weakness.
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1145846736415596545
Kadri was the best trade chit we could afford to move on from under the right circumstances for an RD (thanks to Kerfoot). He?s 30 at great cap value and has scored 30 goals before. Trading Nylander is asinine. Kapanen or Johnsson are individually not enough for anything worthwhile. This was simply the cost of doing the business of trading from strength to shore up a weakness.
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1145846736415596545