Leafs @ Wild - Jan. 2nd, 8:00pm - SNO, Fan 590

[L K]

A loss tonight and wins by the Rangers and Panthers this weekend could see the Leafs fall out of a playoff spot by Monday.

It's this that has me holding out the tiniest bit of hope that falling out of a playoff spot is enough to jump start some action from the front office.  I just think it is incredibly unwise to make a decision about the roster when Carlyle refuses to break up the Bozak-Kessel pairing and we are running his garbage system.  I want to see the roster (at least until some guys are jettisoned at the trade deadline) with someone else behind the bench to see if anything changes.  If there is anything worth salvaging before we jump right back into a full on rebuild where we are trying to move guys with massive contracts.

Does anyone (Carlton/Busta) have the CF% numbers for the game and a half that Kadri played with Kessel earlier in the year?

 

[moon111]

The problem is the Leafs are a constant trying just to make the playoffs team in order to please the fans.  There's three directions to go.  Obtain a missing element, do nothing, blow-up the roster.  I wouldn't mind a swap, just to change things up.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I mean, I missed the 3rd period so I watched the game in 6 and if anything, the only reason this game was 1-0 going into the 3rd was the play of Bernier. He made some absolute highlight reel saves in the 1st.

Game-winner wasn't great, but he didn't stand a chance on the other two. I think maybe we're used to only equating great goalie performances to when somebody makes 35+ saves. Anybody blaming him is insane.

It was a soft goal, which IMO made the team play a different way. He should of had that goal and the out come would of been likely different. At least one point possibly. It was the first game in about 10 which the team out shot an opponent. They deserved better. It should of started with Bernier making that save

That's a complete head scratcher. If not for Bernier, last night's game is 3-0 for the Wild after the 1st period...Again, Unless Bernier shuts the team out, this team loses that game every night of the week.

 

[freer]

I mean, I missed the 3rd period so I watched the game in 6 and if anything, the only reason this game was 1-0 going into the 3rd was the play of Bernier. He made some absolute highlight reel saves in the 1st.

Game-winner wasn't great, but he didn't stand a chance on the other two. I think maybe we're used to only equating great goalie performances to when somebody makes 35+ saves. Anybody blaming him is insane.

It was a soft goal, which IMO made the team play a different way. He should of had that goal and the out come would of been likely different. At least one point possibly. It was the first game in about 10 which the team out shot an opponent. They deserved better. It should of started with Bernier making that save

That's a complete head scratcher. If not for Bernier, last night's game is 3-0 for the Wild after the 1st period...Again, Unless Bernier shuts the team out, this team loses that game every night of the week.

He is paid 3.5 mil dollars a year. That is what we pay him to do. Unfortunately a 24 year old goalie in MIS earning a third of the money was better then him, even though he had less shots.

 

[Andy007]

I mean, I missed the 3rd period so I watched the game in 6 and if anything, the only reason this game was 1-0 going into the 3rd was the play of Bernier. He made some absolute highlight reel saves in the 1st.

Game-winner wasn't great, but he didn't stand a chance on the other two. I think maybe we're used to only equating great goalie performances to when somebody makes 35+ saves. Anybody blaming him is insane.

It was a soft goal, which IMO made the team play a different way. He should of had that goal and the out come would of been likely different. At least one point possibly. It was the first game in about 10 which the team out shot an opponent. They deserved better. It should of started with Bernier making that save

That's a complete head scratcher. If not for Bernier, last night's game is 3-0 for the Wild after the 1st period...Again, Unless Bernier shuts the team out, this team loses that game every night of the week.

He is paid 3.5 mil dollars a year. That is what we pay him to do. Unfortunately a 24 year old goalie in MIS earning a third of the money was better then him, even though he had less shots.

So what you're saying is Bernier has to pitch a shutout otherwise the loss is on him. And that any time a team outshoots the other that they deserve to win. Oh, and that a goalie who makes a lot more than another goalie should automatically beat the lower paid goalie. Good points.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

He is paid 3.5 mil dollars a year. That is what we pay him to do. Unfortunately a 24 year old goalie in MIS earning a third of the money was better then him, even though he had less shots.

I don't know why you're bringing salary into this, I'm pretty sure Bernier has more than exceeded the value of his $3.4mil salary, which is the 25th highest salary among goalies this season.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Does anyone (Carlton/Busta) have the CF% numbers for the game and a half that Kadri played with Kessel earlier in the year?

Looks like they played 5 games together, from Oct. 28th-Nov 6th. When on the ice together during that stretch they had a 52.2% CF at evens.

These are the raw numbers:

vs. BUF 20 7
@ CBJ 10 9
vs. CHI 12 20
@ ARI 2 5
@ COL 16 14

So it includes a game where they dominated Buffalo and got dominated by Chicago, somewhat predictably. The game against Arizona they only started the game together but Kessel ended up spending most of his ice-time with Bozak. Then Kadri-Kessel was re-united for Colorado before things went back to the normal lines after that game.

 

[L K]

Does anyone (Carlton/Busta) have the CF% numbers for the game and a half that Kadri played with Kessel earlier in the year?

Looks like they played 5 games together, from Oct. 28th-Nov 6th. When on the ice together during that stretch they had a 52.2% CF at evens.

These are the raw numbers:

vs. BUF 20 7
@ CBJ 10 9
vs. CHI 12 20
@ ARI 2 5
@ COL 16 14

So it includes a game where they dominated Buffalo and got dominated by Chicago, somewhat predictably. The game against Arizona they only started the game together but Kessel ended up spending most of his ice-time with Bozak. Then Kadri-Kessel was re-united for Colorado before things went back to the normal lines after that game.

So pretty much what I expected.  It not so much a problem of Kessel OR Bozak.  It's a problem of Kessel WITH Bozak.  Obviously with sample size being a limiting factor in whether that possession would be sustainable.  It's just a bad line overall.  They get scored on more than they score.  They spend more time in the defensive zone, putting stress on our defense and goaltender.  And all so that they can score a bunch of goals on the rush.

Thanks.  What site do you use for the game-to-game advanced stats?