Liles called up from Marlies

[LuncheonMeat]

I'm pretty sure Bozak has been placed on the IR so that frees up more than enough space to cover Liles on this trip.  I have a feeling Ranger might be sitting here for a game or two.

IR doesn't free up any cap space, but does free up a roster spot. Cap space comes into effect if a player is placed on long-term injury reserve (LTIR.) Something along those lines.

Ahhh, so where do they get the $$ to bridge the difference between Liles' AHL cap hit vs. NHL hit?  i realize it's only about $1 mil, but do they even have that?  Where are the cap nerds hiding? 

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I'm pretty sure Bozak has been placed on the IR so that frees up more than enough space to cover Liles on this trip.  I have a feeling Ranger might be sitting here for a game or two.

IR doesn't free up any cap space, but does free up a roster spot. Cap space comes into effect if a player is placed on long-term injury reserve (LTIR.) Something along those lines.

Ahhh, so where do they get the $$ to bridge the difference between Liles' AHL cap hit vs. NHL hit?  i realize it's only about $1 mil, but do they even have that?  Where are the cap nerds hiding? 

Basically, they still have enough space from Fraser and Kulemin being on LTIR to bring Liles up.

 

[Capn_Crunch]

I'm happy that JML will likely get into the lineup on this back-to-back - he's still an NHL calabre Dman. If he proves to be capable, EDM and CAL are the most likely teams interested in the league, too.

I think it would be more likely that he ended up in Pits as a replacement for Scuderi now that he is gone from the hit by clarkson   Give him a couple of games to show what he can bring to a NHL team is the right thing to do. Tho he may end up being a key replacement for us later on this year if someone of note in our D corps goes down. He's worth more to us as an insurance policy then he is as trade bait.

 

[Britishbulldog]

How does the new CBA work with waivers?  Now that Liles cleared at the beginning of the year, when does he have to clear again?  Can the Leafs continue to pull him up and down?

 

[bustaheims]

How does the new CBA work with waivers?  Now that Liles cleared at the beginning of the year, when does he have to clear again?  Can the Leafs continue to pull him up and down?

He has to clear to be sent back down if he hasn't cleared in the past 30 days or has been not the roster for 10 games.

 

[Deebo]

How does the new CBA work with waivers?  Now that Liles cleared at the beginning of the year, when does he have to clear again?  Can the Leafs continue to pull him up and down?

He has to clear to be sent back down if he hasn't cleared in the past 30 days or has been not the roster for 10 games.

He cleared on September 30th, so if he stays up all for a couple more days, which seems likely, he'll have to clear again.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

How does the new CBA work with waivers?  Now that Liles cleared at the beginning of the year, when does he have to clear again?  Can the Leafs continue to pull him up and down?

He has to clear to be sent back down if he hasn't cleared in the past 30 days or has been not the roster for 10 games.

Isn't it 30 days on the NHL roster since he cleared or played 10 games?

 

[bustaheims]

Isn't it 30 days on the NHL roster since he cleared or played 10 games?

I'm pretty sure it's 30 days, period, but I'll check the CBA.

 

[bustaheims]

Alright. THat little snippet of the CBA is pretty awkwardly worded. I'm pretty sure it's supposed to mean 10 games played or 30 days on the NHL roster, but, the way it's worded can be interpreted as simply having 30 days of an NHL season pass by.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Alright. THat little snippet of the CBA is pretty awkwardly worded. I'm pretty sure it's supposed to mean 10 games played or 30 days on the NHL roster, but, the way it's worded can be interpreted as simply having 30 days of an NHL season pass by.

Which part are you reading? This section seems pretty clear:

13.5 Waiver Expiration. The rights granted under this Article to Loan a Player(s) who is
otherwise required to clear Regular Waivers to a minor league club expire for any Player(s) who,
after clearing Regular Waivers:
(i) is not Loaned to a minor league club, or is Recalled from a minor league
club (except on emergency Recall) and remains on an NHL roster for
thirty (30) days (cumulative) or plays ten (10) NHL Games (cumulative)

 

[bustaheims]

Which part are you reading? This section seems pretty clear:

13.5 Waiver Expiration. The rights granted under this Article to Loan a Player(s) who is
otherwise required to clear Regular Waivers to a minor league club expire for any Player(s) who,
after clearing Regular Waivers:
(i) is not Loaned to a minor league club, or is Recalled from a minor league
club (except on emergency Recall) and remains on an NHL roster for
thirty (30) days (cumulative) or plays ten (10) NHL Games (cumulative)

I got to 13.2(b), got lazy and stopped.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I got to 13.2(b), got lazy and stopped.

tsk tsk

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Flames just lost Giordano for 6-8 weeks...

 

[Champ Kind]

Flames just lost Giordano for 6-8 weeks...

Look at you, the bearer of good news.  ;D

 

[moon111]

The old Kaberle question all over again.  ;D  Why not use Liles on a shutdown line as a winger?

JVR Kessel Lupul
Raymond  Kadri Clarkson
Liles McClement Kulemin ~ or ~  Kulemin McClement Orr
McLaren T.Smith C. Orr    ~ or ~ McLaren T.Smith Liles

 

[leafplasma]

The old Kaberle question all over again.  ;D  Why not use Liles on a shutdown line as a winger?

JVR Kessel Lupul
Raymond  Kadri Clarkson
Liles McClement Kulemin ~ or ~  Kulemin McClement Orr
McLaren T.Smith C. Orr    ~ or ~ McLaren T.Smith Liles

The Ian White experiment you mean.  White had a bit of grit at least and we need a centre not a winger.  Liles wouldn't fit a third of fourth line role and I think we have better in house options on wing for the bottom 6.  RC would go nuts watching a soft Liles acclimate to the forward position in a shut down role.  It would never happen.