Luongo

[Frank E]

Tweeted Mirtle earlier today and he believes there's something we're missing in regards to the buyout options and won't really comment until he gets more info.

On buyouts or on the cap recapture stuff? Because, I'm pretty sure we know pretty much what we need to know about the buyouts.

That cap recapture stuff looks pretty scary, like too damning for the teams that own those contracts.  I wonder if there's something there that may be misunderstood.

 

[Bender]

Tweeted Mirtle earlier today and he believes there's something we're missing in regards to the buyout options and won't really comment until he gets more info.

On buyouts or on the cap recapture stuff? Because, I'm pretty sure we know pretty much what we need to know about the buyouts.

Yes, sorry. The cap recapture. Ugh. Im about as accurate right now as a slapshot from Dion.

 

[Wendel's Fist]

Good article over at MLHS on the risks involved if we take on Luongo:

http://mapleleafshotstove.com/2013/01/08/better-know-the-risk-roberto-luongo/

I've been vehemently against the idea of trading for Luongo from the beginning, and maybe this article will help sway some of you.

The article says that the Leafs should go after Luongo and that he's worth the risk of what might happen later on.

 

[Frank E]

Good article over at MLHS on the risks involved if we take on Luongo:

http://mapleleafshotstove.com/2013/01/08/better-know-the-risk-roberto-luongo/

I've been vehemently against the idea of trading for Luongo from the beginning, and maybe this article will help sway some of you.

The article says that the Leafs should go after Luongo and that he's worth the risk of what might happen later on.

And also that even if he does retire early, that $1 or $2 mil on the cap is still better than $5.3 mil he be taking up if he was backing up...assuming he's backing up instead of starting in his forties.

Edit:  The whole thing reads as though the author is trying to talk himself into supporting the whole idea.

 

[Swede]

There would only be one good thing about trading for LOU and that would be that the Kessel trade would no longer be looked upon as Burke 's biggest mistake

 

[Bonsixx]

There would only be one good thing about trading for LOU and that would be that the Kessel trade would no longer be looked upon as Burke 's biggest mistake

Well, that and the Leafs would probably make the playoffs for at least the next three years. I know some people have forgotten about the playoffs, but they were pretty neat.

Luongo is still a difference-maker and, everything else aside, as a fan, I miss having a difference-maker in goal.

 

[Redleaf]

There would only be one good thing about trading for LOU and that would be that the Kessel trade would no longer be looked upon as Burke 's biggest mistake

The only move that could be worse than getting Luongo is not getting him. It's the quintessential catch 22.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

There would only be one good thing about trading for LOU and that would be that the Kessel trade would no longer be looked upon as Burke 's biggest mistake

Well, that and the Leafs would probably make the playoffs for at least the next three years. I know some people have forgotten about the playoffs, but they were pretty neat.

Luongo is still a difference-maker and, everything else aside, as a fan, I miss having a difference-maker in goal.

Look what CuJo did to a young Leafs team.

 

[Swede]

Do not want him and his anti -Burke tye contract

 

[Justin]

Do not want him and his anti -Burke tye contract

Not only has Burke been vocally against long-term contracts, he officially testified against his self-described friend and mentor (Lamoreillo) regarding the Kovalchuk fiasco. I firmly believe the Leafs are not interested in Luongo. They would have traded for him already if they really wanted him.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

There would only be one good thing about trading for LOU and that would be that the Kessel trade would no longer be looked upon as Burke 's biggest mistake

Well, that and the Leafs would probably make the playoffs for at least the next three years. I know some people have forgotten about the playoffs, but they were pretty neat.

Luongo is still a difference-maker and, everything else aside, as a fan, I miss having a difference-maker in goal.

This is pretty much where I'm at. Guys of Luongo's caliber don't become available every day. I know it's not a responsible way to think, but I'll worry about what happens in 2020 when it gets here.

 

[Bender]

There would only be one good thing about trading for LOU and that would be that the Kessel trade would no longer be looked upon as Burke 's biggest mistake

Well, that and the Leafs would probably make the playoffs for at least the next three years. I know some people have forgotten about the playoffs, but they were pretty neat.

Luongo is still a difference-maker and, everything else aside, as a fan, I miss having a difference-maker in goal.

This is pretty much where I'm at. Guys of Luongo's caliber don't become available every day. I know it's not a responsible way to think, but I'll worry about what happens in 2020 when it gets here.

And there's nothing worse than simply not sucking enough so you don't get a good pick. It really would depend on a number of factors though to be quite honest. If we could get a younger goaltender through a trade I'd rather do that as it should give a longer spread of competitiveness and no issue for a backdiving long term deal.

 

[Redleaf]

Do not want him and his anti -Burke tye contract

Not only has Burke been vocally against long-term contracts, he officially testified against his self-described friend and mentor (Lamoreillo) regarding the Kovalchuk fiasco. I firmly believe the Leafs are not interested in Luongo. They would have traded for him already if they really wanted him.

Burke has not griped about Luongo's contract in public. He's only complained about Gillis' asking price in trade for him. To me, this implies that he's interested in getting him. It just needs to be a fair hockey deal. Whether Gillis has lowered his demands for Luo or not remains to be seen. We should find out by weeks end or sooner if he has.

 

[Swede]

He may not have griped over his contract but it would be very two
faced to pick it up after his stance on the issue. He would look like a putz. That is why he was pushing for the signing club to still carry
some of the responsability of these contracts in the new CBA.
It would have made signing Lou OK
I do not think such a clause was implemented so the dream or nightmare of Luo should die.

 

[Redleaf]

He may not have griped over his contract but it would be very two
faced to pick it up after his stance on the issue. He would look like a putz. That is why he was pushing for the signing club to still carry
some of the responsability of these contracts in the new CBA.
It would have made signing Lou OK
I do not think such a clause was implemented so the dream or nightmare of Luo should die.

Yet there has been no official denial of a plan to bring in Luongo since the lock out ended and the rumors have run rampant. I'll believe he is continuing to work out a deal until I hear Burke come out and say otherwise.

 

[Deebo]

Do not want him and his anti -Burke tye contract

Not only has Burke been vocally against long-term contracts, he officially testified against his self-described friend and mentor (Lamoreillo) regarding the Kovalchuk fiasco. I firmly believe the Leafs are not interested in Luongo. They would have traded for him already if they really wanted him.

I don't think they would have traded for him until after the CBA was sorted out even if they are interested.

 

[Zee]

Do not want him and his anti -Burke tye contract

Not only has Burke been vocally against long-term contracts, he officially testified against his self-described friend and mentor (Lamoreillo) regarding the Kovalchuk fiasco. I firmly believe the Leafs are not interested in Luongo. They would have traded for him already if they really wanted him.

I don't think they would have traded for him until after the CBA was sorted out even if they are interested.

This whole "Florida has the first right of refusal" thing is also throwing a wrench in there.  Luongo WANTS to go to Florida, and Gillis wants to hear a definite "no" from the GM there before he trades him anywhere else.

 

[Corn Flake]

This whole "Florida has the first right of refusal" thing is also throwing a wrench in there.  Luongo WANTS to go to Florida, and Gillis wants to hear a definite "no" from the GM there before he trades him anywhere else.

I don't think Gillis actually cares.. he cares about who has the best package for Luongo and/or who is going to take on that deal.  Luongo and his agent can probably figure out Florida's interest and hold out as them being the only team they will waive for but things could move quickly and he may run out of time to hold out for them. 

 

[Zee]

This whole "Florida has the first right of refusal" thing is also throwing a wrench in there.  Luongo WANTS to go to Florida, and Gillis wants to hear a definite "no" from the GM there before he trades him anywhere else.

I don't think Gillis actually cares.. he cares about who has the best package for Luongo and/or who is going to take on that deal.  Luongo and his agent can probably figure out Florida's interest and hold out as them being the only team they will waive for but things could move quickly and he may run out of time to hold out for them.

I think part of him cares actually.  Bury Luongo in Florida where nobody in Vancouver will care or send him to the Leafs, one of their most hated cities.  His disdain for Burke is no secret either.

 

[Redleaf]

This whole "Florida has the first right of refusal" thing is also throwing a wrench in there.  Luongo WANTS to go to Florida, and Gillis wants to hear a definite "no" from the GM there before he trades him anywhere else.

I don't think Gillis actually cares.. he cares about who has the best package for Luongo and/or who is going to take on that deal.  Luongo and his agent can probably figure out Florida's interest and hold out as them being the only team they will waive for but things could move quickly and he may run out of time to hold out for them.

Well that's just it. I don't see Luongo being a benchwarmer for weeks on end, while Florida haggles with Gillis; if the Leafs already have the better offer on the table.