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Marleau being shopped around

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https://twitter.com/pierrevlebrun/status/1134497823481892864?s=21


Oh baby!!

It's funny how all Leafs trade rumours are centered around bad Lamiorello contracts. I get that Zaitsev asked for a trade but still, the 2 deals we absolutely hate are Marleau and Zaitsev and now both are trade rumors.
 
I know I like to laugh at bad UFA signings every July, but for the most part, the GMs of the league participate in so much mutual backscratching that teams aren't really suffering for longer than 1-2 years. It's not worth the effort to fret.
 
Looking at their cap, it looks like the kings can afford to take on Marleau without moving anything.

They have 11M with a 19 man roster and no significant RFAs to sign.

At the very least, this tells us that the team is exploring ways to move Marleau. I wonder if that means they have had some conversations with him about waiving his NMC.
 
I doubt he waives... but getting rid of Zaitsev and Marleau in the same offseason would be like David Clarkson Day all over again.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I doubt he waives... but getting rid of Zaitsev and Marleau in the same offseason would be like David Clarkson Day all over again.
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It wouldn't shock me. There's been a fair amount of speculation that he'd be open to a trade that sends him back to the west coast. LA likely being terrible next season does complicate things, but, I can see it happening.
 
bustaheims said:
It wouldn't shock me. There's been a fair amount of speculation that he'd be open to a trade that sends him back to the west coast. LA likely being terrible next season does complicate things, but, I can see it happening.
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I think it does a little more than just complicate things. We're talking about a guy who's had a Hall-of-very-good career and almost certainly has just one more shot at winning the Cup before he has to retire. A trade back to San Jose I could understand, but a bottom-feeder like LA just seems way too unlikely. But I guess we'll see.
 
Mirtle on Zaitsev/Marleau

https://twitter.com/mirtle/status/1134508892346564608

Yes, there's a link to paywall site.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
It wouldn't shock me. There's been a fair amount of speculation that he'd be open to a trade that sends him back to the west coast. LA likely being terrible next season does complicate things, but, I can see it happening.
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I think it does a little more than just complicate things. We're talking about a guy who's had a Hall-of-very-good career and almost certainly has just one more shot at winning the Cup before he has to retire. A trade back to San Jose I could understand, but a bottom-feeder like LA just seems way too unlikely. But I guess we'll see.
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Will be very interesting to see what comes of this. Maybe Marleau realizes that his contract is going to have a significant negative impact on the Leafs chances to win a cup in his final year. Spending those 6 mil on the defense would greatly increase their chances. But LA...at least he'll play everyday and won't be stuck on the 4th line. Maybe he then gets moved at the deadline to a contender.
 
Chris said:
Maybe he then gets moved at the deadline to a contender.
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Maybe back to the Leafs lol. We all know LA was a bottom feeder this season but are they really that bad of a team? Quick was injured for quite a bit if I recall. Not sure if they'll contend for a playoff spot or not but we know things can turn around quickly in this league. It's an interesting scenario though. I would think the Leafs would have to retain some of his salary.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Maybe back to the Leafs lol. We all know LA was a bottom feeder this season but are they really that bad of a team? Quick was injured for quite a bit if I recall. Not sure if they'll contend for a playoff spot or not but we know things can turn around quickly in this league. It's an interesting scenario though. I would think the Leafs would have to retain some of his salary.
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Quick actually put up worse numbers than their backups last season. Injury might have played into that, but, sometimes, goalies fall off quickly once they get into their 30s. But, outside of that, they don't have a ton of offensive depth, and the quality of their blueline drops off quite dramatically after Doughty and Martinez. so, yes, without some significant changes, they'll be bad next season.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I doubt he waives... but getting rid of Zaitsev and Marleau in the same offseason would be like David Clarkson Day all over again.
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Yeah it sounded like a pipe dream to me as well.  Like of all teams why would Marleau choose to go to an aging LA team that has no realistic shot at winning anything?  If it were San Jose or Vegas I could see it, but LA?
 
bustaheims said:
Guilt Trip said:
Maybe back to the Leafs lol. We all know LA was a bottom feeder this season but are they really that bad of a team? Quick was injured for quite a bit if I recall. Not sure if they'll contend for a playoff spot or not but we know things can turn around quickly in this league. It's an interesting scenario though. I would think the Leafs would have to retain some of his salary.
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Quick actually put up worse numbers than their backups last season. Injury might have played into that, but, sometimes, goalies fall off quickly once they get into their 30s. But, outside of that, they don't have a ton of offensive depth, and the quality of their blueline drops off quite dramatically after Doughty and Martinez. so, yes, without some significant changes, they'll be bad next season.
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Thx. I was just looking over their roster and it isn't pretty.
 
Guilt Trip said:
bustaheims said:
Guilt Trip said:
Maybe back to the Leafs lol. We all know LA was a bottom feeder this season but are they really that bad of a team? Quick was injured for quite a bit if I recall. Not sure if they'll contend for a playoff spot or not but we know things can turn around quickly in this league. It's an interesting scenario though. I would think the Leafs would have to retain some of his salary.
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Quick actually put up worse numbers than their backups last season. Injury might have played into that, but, sometimes, goalies fall off quickly once they get into their 30s. But, outside of that, they don't have a ton of offensive depth, and the quality of their blueline drops off quite dramatically after Doughty and Martinez. so, yes, without some significant changes, they'll be bad next season.
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Thx. I was just looking over their roster and it isn't pretty.
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Maybe it's LA's idea of a tank?  Marleau's best days are behind him. LA goes for last overall, trades Doughty at the deadline, gets good chance at first overall?  I mean you only have to put up with Marleau for 1 season.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I doubt he waives... but getting rid of Zaitsev and Marleau in the same offseason would be like David Clarkson Day all over again.
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In this case, I just don't think the Leafs would bother talking to other teams if they haven't had a conversation with Marleau about it.
 
Deebo said:
CarltonTheBear said:
I doubt he waives... but getting rid of Zaitsev and Marleau in the same offseason would be like David Clarkson Day all over again.
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In this case, I just don't think the Leafs would bother talking to other teams if they haven't had a conversation with Marleau about it.
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That's a fair point.  Marleau might have already indicated which if any teams he's willing to waive for and Dubas is working around that.
 
Deebo said:
In this case, I just don't think the Leafs would bother talking to other teams if they haven't had a conversation with Marleau about it.
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I think generally speaking teams negotiate trades first and check with NTCs later. Why have the awkward conversation with Marleau about waiving his (and essentially telling him the club doesn't want him anymore) only to find out that no teams are interested. And of course if that's the case then Dubas probably isn't too thrilled this was leaked.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I think generally speaking teams negotiate trades first and check with NTCs later. Why have the awkward conversation with Marleau about waiving his (and essentially telling him the club doesn't want him anymore) only to find out that no teams are interested. And of course if that's the case then Dubas probably isn't too thrilled this was leaked.
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Yeah, I remember Burke saying he operated that way but I don't think everyone necessarily does things the same way.

With this case, where Marleau is probably fully aware of the cap situation with the Leafs, I'm don't think it would be too awkward a conversation to ask if he was open to a move.
 
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