Media Thread
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I was kind of hoping that he was going to land with the Ringer. I've noticed a fair amount of hockey stories coming from their feed this season. But I've never heard of any of the people writing them, so it would have been nice for them to have a bigger personality leading the way like Wysh.
Anyway, ESPN seemed to lose what little respect the hockey community had for them in the summer when they gutted that department, so it'll be interesting to see if he can help rebuild that. They also finally got Katie Nolan out of FS1. She of course doesn't focus on hockey but those are two pretty good signings for them.
Anyway, ESPN seemed to lose what little respect the hockey community had for them in the summer when they gutted that department, so it'll be interesting to see if he can help rebuild that. They also finally got Katie Nolan out of FS1. She of course doesn't focus on hockey but those are two pretty good signings for them.
Kin
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CarltonTheBear said:
It's funny though. His last ever big piece for Yahoo is effectively the sort of thing ESPN is suspending people for now.
I've never thought of Wyshkynski as being a great stylist or having some unique insight into the way the game was played, he's always been valuable because of his lack of concern for challenging conventions and giving the established hockey culture a good whacking when it needs it. The idea that ESPN will let him do that there seems...questionable.
Nik the Trik said:
Yup. I was literally just reading that. Posted here for anyone who hasn't seen it: https://sports.yahoo.com/penguins-wrong-accept-trumps-invitation-feeble-statement-164255570.html
Nik the Trik said:
Yeah, that's all basically why I thought a place like the Ringer would have been a better fit for him. But at the same time I think you can say similar things about Nolan, at least in regards to not being afraid to speak out and as you said give "a good whacking when it needs it". I agree it seems questionable but why go after two people like that who are both known to try and shake the status quo.
Kin
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CarltonTheBear said:
It's not just that you can say similar things about her but people have and are:
https://deadspin.com/who-will-katie-nolan-be-at-espn-1819149983
CarltonTheBear said:
Because I don't think ESPN is that sophisticated about these things. They see people like Nolan and Wyshynski who have relatively big followings and assume they can convert that to eyeballs without really considering the implication of expecting people to be themselves while conforming to their expected corporate culture.
It's basically what we're seeing right now with ESPN and Jemele Hill. She got to where she was by being very different from establishment voices so ESPN hired her, gave her a big deal time slot and, well, now they're feuding with the President.
Nik the Trik said:
Yeah, that's fair. I realize that I shouldn't be giving ESPN the benefit of the doubt in any way, but for Wysh and Nolan's sakes I hope they're given the freedom to let their strengths/talents shine. At least they're both white so Trump probably won't bother with them if they say anything negative about him.
https://twitter.com/TSN1050Radio/status/918108941640458240
Alright, this has gotten a little out of hand.
Alright, this has gotten a little out of hand.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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Why?
He seemed like a nice guy, good luck to him.
He seemed like a nice guy, good luck to him.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
He's famous because he painted his face and somebody else on twitter made it a big thing. Going through his twitter feed from time to time his hockey takes/analysis isn't even all that interesting/note-worthy. Also how many people out there are busting their asses off to make it in a career like that one who never get the chance while this guy just stumbles backwards into it. I know that's not his fault and stuff like that happens all the time but it's just annoying. His 15 minutes should have been over 7 months ago.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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I get that he might not have earned it, but I don't blame him for riding the whole thing for as long as he can. While he might not have the most nuanced opinions, he has always seemed genuinely pleasant whenever I've heard him speak.
I also don't think him getting this opportunity prevents others from having success, one thing hockey twitter has proved, especially in the past five years, is that those doing great work almost inevitably get noticed, either by the big networks, teams or the league.
Honestly, begrudging him this chance is not a good look and one you might want to rethink because it seems strangely bitter.
I also don't think him getting this opportunity prevents others from having success, one thing hockey twitter has proved, especially in the past five years, is that those doing great work almost inevitably get noticed, either by the big networks, teams or the league.
Honestly, begrudging him this chance is not a good look and one you might want to rethink because it seems strangely bitter.
Heroic Shrimp
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CarltonTheBear said:
Clearly one of the least warranted exclamation points ever.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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Nik the Trik said:
That's fair.
I think with the team on the upward trend, what we might have to get used to is the networks/stations starting to cater more to the "casual" fan who is now paying more attention because the team is good.
For anyone over 45 hearing Mirtle/Wheeler/Siegel talking about the game the way most of us have become comfortable with, might seem like a foreign language.
Do I agree with the programming choice? No, but as a businesses, I certainly understand why they might do it.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Don't worry, I'll delete these posts when he becomes Prime Minister.