https://twitter.com/mooredom/status/1075810071215525888
Pretty happy for Moore here. 38 years old and representing Canada for the very first time.
Pretty happy for Moore here. 38 years old and representing Canada for the very first time.
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Guilt Trip
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Always liked Grabbo. Decent player for sure.
Arn
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So on Sunday I was in Munich and I went to catch the DEL game between EHC Red Bull Munchen and Wolfsburg (sadly I missed most of the first period cos I was commuting fro the Bayern Munich v Stuttgart football match, some day of sport!)
They have 3 ex-Leafs on their roster. John Mitchell is sadly injured, which is a shame as he is the team's top point scorer despite having played about 10 games less than anyone else playing mostly on the top line and their PP.
The other 2 are Keith Aulie who is on the top D pair and Matt Stajan.
Possibly surprisingly Stajan was mostly on the 3rd line, but played a good bit on the PK also. Munich are looking to with a 4th consecutive German title and are the first German team to make a final of the European Champions Cup where they play Frolunda from Sweden in a few weeks.
Munchen were a great team to watch, won the game 3-1 with an ENG. None of the former Leafs picked up a point, but it was very fun to see Stajan especially who was one I remember coming through when I was in my early days of Leaf fandom
They have 3 ex-Leafs on their roster. John Mitchell is sadly injured, which is a shame as he is the team's top point scorer despite having played about 10 games less than anyone else playing mostly on the top line and their PP.
The other 2 are Keith Aulie who is on the top D pair and Matt Stajan.
Possibly surprisingly Stajan was mostly on the 3rd line, but played a good bit on the PK also. Munich are looking to with a 4th consecutive German title and are the first German team to make a final of the European Champions Cup where they play Frolunda from Sweden in a few weeks.
Munchen were a great team to watch, won the game 3-1 with an ENG. None of the former Leafs picked up a point, but it was very fun to see Stajan especially who was one I remember coming through when I was in my early days of Leaf fandom
Highlander
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Thanks for this story, what I find interesting is Stajan is playing for the love of the game. Let's face it he made enough money over his NHL career with pensions to retire and have a home in the U.S and a couple of homes in Canada. He can do what the hell he wants, but here he is playing in Germany, away from home and family (I am making an assumption he has one), yes for money, but for the love of the game. Makes me wonder why we pay these guys so much, they would probably play for free if the truth be told.Arn said:
Guilt Trip
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Talked to a guy who knows Stajan's brother and dad. Said this is his last year playing. He's had enough. Had a pretty good run if it is true.Highlander said:
mr grieves
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cabber24 said:
23 games on, he's got 6 goals and 9 points at 5v5. Not setting the world on fire, but a very respectable 2.1 P/60.
That 5v5 rate is well behind Marner (3.5), Matthews (3.4), Tavares (3.3), Moore (3.3), Johnsson and Kapanen too... on par with Hyman (2.1), and ahead of Brown (1.7) and Marleau (1.5).
He is an impressive play-driver though, with a 54.7% CF, 56% HDCF%, and a 69% GF% (PDO of 104.8).
In Corsi, he'd be behind Nylander and Moore, and ahead of all other forwards.
In HDCF%, he'd be behind Tavares, Nylander, and Marner, and ahead of all other forwards.
In GF%, he's ahead of all Leafs (Johnsson and Brown are closest at 66% and 62%, respectively -- they both have PDO's over 105)
Point being..... Josh is proving himself a good player who can probably hang in the top-9. In unrelated news, the Leafs are running out of cost-controlled options there (just Moore) and getting to the point where the inefficiency of Brown's and Hyman's contracts are getting to be problems.
mr grieves
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Bender said:
Beats me!
Guilt Trip
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Exactly my thinking when they dumped Leivo.Bender said:
bustaheims
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Bender said:
7 letters. Starts with a B. Ends with a K.
A quarter of his most recent points came in his very last game (1 goal and 2 assists). There's a reason we really didn't have any Leivo-updates for a month and a half before this. He had 8 points in 22 games before last night. He's also playing almost exclusively with Pettersson and Boeser who have 25 and 23 points respectively in that same stretch. In that context his point numbers honestly seem pretty shoddy. With that in mind Pettersson and Boeser's possession numbers have certainly been much better with Leivo than without Leivo. Without digging much deeper it's hard to know if that's entirely because of Leivo or not. But those are two elite, superstar hockey players and I'd have to guess Leivo's benefiting from them significantly more than the other way around.
mr grieves
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By "shoddy" do you mean "substantially less impressive than wingers on the current Leafs roster who make more than twice as much"? Because that's the thing that stands out to me when I look at the numbers, not that he's the Kasperi Kapanen that got away.
mr grieves said:
Like I said, they look shoddy in the sense that prior to last night he was scoring at a 29-point pace in Vancouver while playing alongside 2 elite, PPG players. Connor Brown, who I'm not exactly quick to defend, is scoring at a 29-point pace this season and his most frequent linemate has been Par Lindholm.
If last night's performance from Leivo is more of a sign of things to come and he steps up his scoring, then maybe I'll change my tune here.
mr grieves
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CarltonTheBear said:
I'm singing a different tune because the point pace doesn't really much to me. The play driving and, especially, the contract do.
herman
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bustaheims said:
What's the point of keeping the nominally better player that the coach you're committed to will not play over said coach's second-favourite worker bee who has situational application, particularly defensively? If it was still a Martin > Leivo situation like last year, I'd be more contentious about it. Brown has better AHL numbers and is younger than Leivo so it's not unjustifiable.