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Nylander signs 6-year contract

I know quoting oneself is tacky - but I just feel that I wasn?t off when I said this:

Joe S. said:
I?m as happy as anyone here that this story is over now. I?m just trying to be realistic with my expectations for Nylander?s performance this year. Typically when a player misses camp they come back all out of sync and take a while to get going. We?re not just talking camp here - it?s been 3 months.

Obviously the team is better with him - I just have a feeling it?s not going to be a smooth transition.

It?ll come around. Maybe this will end up being a lost season for him but come on, he didn?t lose all his talent at 22. He?s still a high impact player who will be a significant contributor over the next several years. Patience.
 
Joe S. said:
I know quoting oneself is tacky - but I just feel that I wasn?t off when I said this:

Joe S. said:
I?m as happy as anyone here that this story is over now. I?m just trying to be realistic with my expectations for Nylander?s performance this year. Typically when a player misses camp they come back all out of sync and take a while to get going. We?re not just talking camp here - it?s been 3 months.

Obviously the team is better with him - I just have a feeling it?s not going to be a smooth transition.

It?ll come around. Maybe this will end up being a lost season for him but come on, he didn?t lose all his talent at 22. He?s still a high impact player who will be a significant contributor over the next several years. Patience.
I think now it's more about the effort out there. If he was going full out I don't think anyone would complain. It's the, sometimes, lack of competitiveness in his game that irks me. Honestly he needs to play more like Kappy and Johnsson and get in there and get the puck.
It's still hard hopping on that moving train tho. I know it will come.
 
Guilt Trip said:
I think now it's more about the effort out there. If he was going full out I don't think anyone would complain. It's the, sometimes, lack of competitiveness in his game that irks me. Honestly he needs to play more like Kappy and Johnsson and get in there and get the puck.

Yeah, getting on the body has never really been part of his game, and I hope he doesn't change it just for optics, cause that isn't what he needs to do. The main problem is that he's a half-step behind in terms of reading plays, getting up to speed, and making decisions - and most importantly, I think his overall conditioning is still coming along - he's been good at the beginning of the game, and starts to trail off mid-2nd period.

To that point, and it's just a guess, but I think the reason Babcock is giving him reduced icetime and 4th line duty toward the end of games isn't because he's in the doghouse, but because he doesn't have the conditioning to play a full game at peak speed, and needs more recovery time. I'll bet within 10 more games, it won't be an issue and he'll be taking a regular shift with Matthews.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Joe S. said:
I know quoting oneself is tacky - but I just feel that I wasn?t off when I said this:

Joe S. said:
I?m as happy as anyone here that this story is over now. I?m just trying to be realistic with my expectations for Nylander?s performance this year. Typically when a player misses camp they come back all out of sync and take a while to get going. We?re not just talking camp here - it?s been 3 months.

Obviously the team is better with him - I just have a feeling it?s not going to be a smooth transition.

It?ll come around. Maybe this will end up being a lost season for him but come on, he didn?t lose all his talent at 22. He?s still a high impact player who will be a significant contributor over the next several years. Patience.
I think now it's more about the effort out there. If he was going full out I don't think anyone would complain. It's the, sometimes, lack of competitiveness in his game that irks me. Honestly he needs to play more like Kappy and Johnsson and get in there and get the puck.
It's still hard hopping on that moving train tho. I know it will come.

No one could complain about getting the puck even more, but really, he has the puck all the time already. Way more than Johnsson does, for example.
 
princedpw said:
Guilt Trip said:
Joe S. said:
I know quoting oneself is tacky - but I just feel that I wasn?t off when I said this:

Joe S. said:
I?m as happy as anyone here that this story is over now. I?m just trying to be realistic with my expectations for Nylander?s performance this year. Typically when a player misses camp they come back all out of sync and take a while to get going. We?re not just talking camp here - it?s been 3 months.

Obviously the team is better with him - I just have a feeling it?s not going to be a smooth transition.

It?ll come around. Maybe this will end up being a lost season for him but come on, he didn?t lose all his talent at 22. He?s still a high impact player who will be a significant contributor over the next several years. Patience.
I think now it's more about the effort out there. If he was going full out I don't think anyone would complain. It's the, sometimes, lack of competitiveness in his game that irks me. Honestly he needs to play more like Kappy and Johnsson and get in there and get the puck.
It's still hard hopping on that moving train tho. I know it will come.

No one could complain about getting the puck even more, but really, he has the puck all the time already. Way more than Johnsson does, for example.
It's not about doing things all the time with the puck. It's about doing stuff also when you don't. Sometimes he's very lazy on the D side of things and some times he doesn't battle too hard. His compete level isn't where it needs to be. We've def seen glimpses, just not enough of it.
 
Guilt Trip said:
princedpw said:
Guilt Trip said:
Joe S. said:
I know quoting oneself is tacky - but I just feel that I wasn?t off when I said this:

Joe S. said:
I?m as happy as anyone here that this story is over now. I?m just trying to be realistic with my expectations for Nylander?s performance this year. Typically when a player misses camp they come back all out of sync and take a while to get going. We?re not just talking camp here - it?s been 3 months.

Obviously the team is better with him - I just have a feeling it?s not going to be a smooth transition.

It?ll come around. Maybe this will end up being a lost season for him but come on, he didn?t lose all his talent at 22. He?s still a high impact player who will be a significant contributor over the next several years. Patience.
I think now it's more about the effort out there. If he was going full out I don't think anyone would complain. It's the, sometimes, lack of competitiveness in his game that irks me. Honestly he needs to play more like Kappy and Johnsson and get in there and get the puck.
It's still hard hopping on that moving train tho. I know it will come.

No one could complain about getting the puck even more, but really, he has the puck all the time already. Way more than Johnsson does, for example.
It's not about doing things all the time with the puck. It's about doing stuff also when you don't. Sometimes he's very lazy on the D side of things and some times he doesn't battle too hard. His compete level isn't where it needs to be. We've def seen glimpses, just not enough of it.

In other words he's a skill player but not a leader. I think he's another Sergei Berezin.
 
I would like to see Willie play at C, let him grow into the role, put Kapi  and Johnsson (on return beside him).
This make Kadri amazing trade bait at his current rate. Kadri has been playing just a putridly as Hainsey and for the most part Bad Jake TM.  Cut Jake and Kadri and save best part of 10 million a year....just saying...as Kadri grew up a Canadians fan perhaps he would be a great fit there.  Sorry, I have grown to love the guy, but this season...not.
So you have Tavares, Matthews, Nylander and Goat (shut down, D guy) as our Centres, we could do a lot worse and the trade bate for Kadri and Jake bad TM would be very good, especially if you dangle a Bracco or Engvall and a good draft pick or two. We need a stud D man
 
Ryan Lambert provides his hot take:

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/31-takes-william-nylander-bad-player-ruined-maple-leafs-ashamed-150026209.html
 
It?s all Willy?s fault!  No, the problem with the Leafs lies much deeper than Willy Ny.  Mirtle puts it in perspective:

...What?s interesting about Toronto?s slump, however, is it is probably more goals against driven than goals for.

The power play is struggling, sure, and Nylander has rarely hit the scoresheet, but the Leafs? goal scoring is only down 0.34 per game over the past 20 games. Their goals against, meanwhile, are up 0.59 per game.

[tweet]1087437579027386369[/tweet]
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/MeghanChayka/status/1087780558900363264

That's pretty cool.

Not sure what it's showing me, but it's pretty cool. Odd that his only goal is a short side shot, top shelf. I assume that's what the green one is showing.
 
Frycer14 said:
OldTimeHockey said:
Not sure what it's showing me, but it's pretty cool.

I'm not sure either. I think it's perhaps proving that he doesn't always miss the net.

I think it?s a proprietary tool (Stathletes) that visualizes shot locations and trajectories overlaid together. Similar to the heat maps for locations, but 3D and unsmeared. Meghan?s brother is John Chayka of the Coyotes.

Further down thread she explains that the missed shots were filtered out because it would be very cluttered. The green line is indeed the goal, which she highlights further in the thread.

Here?s a recent sampling of Matthews? locations and trajectories.
https://twitter.com/meghanchayka/status/1086746005339549698
 
Highlander said:
Meghan is a Babeaholic. Sorry but she could be my GM

Always great to see a woman reduced to her looks but beyond that wouldn't a babeaholic be someone addicted to Babes as opposed to one herself?
 
She started a stats tracking company and has a pretty good handle on how the game is played and analyzed and would probably be a better front office pick than many incumbent hockey men.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Highlander said:
Meghan is a Babeaholic. Sorry but she could be my GM

Always great to see a woman reduced to her looks but beyond that wouldn't a babeaholic be someone addicted to Babes as opposed to one herself?
I'm a workaholic, every time you mention work I get drunk ;)
 

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