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Official Armchair GM Thread 2014-2015 Leafs

I'd try Phaneuf for Klingberg and Eakin from the Stars.

Kessel for Strome, Reinhart and a pick from the Islanders.

Franson for a 1st and prospect (maybe Jurco if DET are interested).

Lupul for Severson.

If those could all be managed we'd have a solid "future" D-corps of:

Rielly-Severson
Reinhart-Klingberg

Strome could slot in as a very capable 2C behind Kadri (if we don't get O'Reilly) with a top end F prospect in Nylander on the way. This years pick could be used for another top end F talent. Eakin is young (23) and plays a nice 2 way game, but has some offence in him.

All the players acquired are young enough (and high ceiling enough) for a Cup contender in around 5 years.

At that point I think Bozak and Gardiner are expendable so I'd try to move Bozak and Gardiner for someone like O'Reilly (or O'Reilly himself).

JVR-O'Reilly-UFA
Eakin-Kadri-Santorelli
Winnik/Panik-Strome-Nylander
Panik/Winnik-TBD-TBD (I think the 4th line needs some thought)

Rielly-Polak
Robidas-Klingberg
Severson-Reinhart

Not perfect by any means, but they're a lot younger with their best hockey in front of them and the team has freed up a ton of cash to shore up a few of the winger issues.
 
I think one of the priorities should be deciding between which one of Reimer and Bernier stays next season then focusing on drafting and strengthening the lack of depth there. As you know you don't have anything in this league if you don't have goaltending and I think it's safe to say you know now what you have in Reimer & Bernier.

Phaneuf has value to a handful of teams that are both at the floor and in a position to see if Phaneuf can resurrect his career / figure out what his new role can be in this league (without having pucks fired at him) But salary is most likely coming back.

Franson should return a late 2nd or early 3rd but I wouldn't hold my breath on much more.

Lupol's chronic injury problems are really going to cap what the Leafs get back for him.  Maybe a 2nd and a C prospect.

If I'm Nonis I give Mac T a call:

To Oilers
Kessel + Reimer + Franson + Kadri

To Leafs
2015 & 2016 1st rounder + 2015 & 2016 2nd Rounder + Leon Draisaitl
 
You actually think Edmonton would give up 2 1sts, 2 2nds and the 5th overall from the last draft in one deal?
 
RedLeaf said:
Highlander said:
To be completely honest, I would rather move Robidas, Holzer,  Polack and Phaneuf (if at all possible) and keep Franson. He is a Toronto Maple Leaf hockey fan and loves the team, shame to let a home boy go.
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I think one of Franson or Phaneuf should be kept, and Franson seems like the most logical choice.
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My opinon of Franson has changed during the season.  He keeps improving different aspects of hit game.  I think Franson is a keeper.  They should trade Gardiner and Robidas.
 
Bullfrog said:
Madferret said:
Franson should return a late 2nd or early 3rd but I wouldn't hold my breath on much more.
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I think you're way off base on this one.
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35 year old Eric freakin' Brewer returned a 3rd rounder this season already.  Johnny Boychuk got two 2nd rounders and a conditional 3rd.
 
Madferret said:
I think one of the priorities should be deciding between which one of Reimer and Bernier stays next season then focusing on drafting and strengthening the lack of depth there. As you know you don't have anything in this league if you don't have goaltending and I think it's safe to say you know now what you have in Reimer & Bernier.

Phaneuf has value to a handful of teams that are both at the floor and in a position to see if Phaneuf can resurrect his career / figure out what his new role can be in this league (without having pucks fired at him) But salary is most likely coming back.

Franson should return a late 2nd or early 3rd but I wouldn't hold my breath on much more.

Lupol's chronic injury problems are really going to cap what the Leafs get back for him.  Maybe a 2nd and a C prospect.

If I'm Nonis I give Mac T a call:

To Oilers
Kessel + Reimer + Franson + Kadri

To Leafs
2015 & 2016 1st rounder + 2015 & 2016 2nd Rounder + Leon Draisaitl
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I don't see the Oilers moving their own first in 2015 which means that deal is not worth it for the Leafs (assuming the 1st is the Pitts one from the Perron deal).

Franson is worth a 1st.

Lupul doesn't have a chronic back problem.
 
JohnK's Revenge said:
Britishbulldog said:
2badknees said:
Britishbulldog said:
So would you trade Kessel for Ovechkin straight up?
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Personally no, but the stats don't back me up.
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I love numbers....so I updated them from the 'Kessel Trade Value' thread

Here is a side by side comparison.



1985 Ovechkin 6'2" 220 RH  (+46 career) $9.538 MIL unitl 2021       
YEAR
14/15
13/14
12/13
11/12
10/11
09/10
08/09
07/08
06/07
05/06		 
GP
32
78
48
78
79
72
79
82
82
81
 
  G
15
51
32
38
32
50
56
65
46
52
 
  A
12
28
24
27
53
59
54
47
46
54
 
PTS
27
79
56
65
85
109
110
112
92
106
 
HITS
109
204
120
215
241
185
243
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-
-



1987 Kessel 5-11 202 RH (-43 career) $8.0 MIL until 2022

YEAR
14/15
13/14
12/13
11/12
10/11
09/10
08/09
07/08
06/07
 
GP
33
82
48
82
82
70
70
82
70
 
G
17
37
20
37
32
30
36
19
11
 
A
19
43
32
45
32
25
24
18
18
 
PTS
36
80
52
82
64
55
60
37
29
 
HITS
9
25
16
12
11
13
6
-
-

So far this year Ovechkin is +7 and Kessel is -5.
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How do you play 2 seasons (150games) without executing 1 hit?  For this reason alone I would take ovie over Kessel. In fact Kessel career hits count is less than a half season of ovechkins.
Edit. I take that back a bit. As ovies hits are posted either. But still I prefer a player with more than one dimension even if it's a really good dimension
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Reason #32 to like Ovechkin:  Why he wanted to win the car so bad!

http://www.nhl.com/ice/blogpost.htm?id=36295&navid=nhl:topheads
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Potvin29 said:
Lots of teams would be interested in an uncoachable player I guess.

"Are you kidding me?" said one rival Western Conference team executive a few days ago. "If they ever auctioned him off there would be a lot of interest regardless of that contract. The guy can score. It?s hard to find those guys."

It?s believed the Leafs have already heard from a number of teams that have made it clear, if Kessel was indeed in play, they?d be interested. Still, I have to think if and when Toronto went that route -- and I?m not saying it will for sure -- it would be more of a June thing where you can include more teams in the process.
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Lebrun
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Science only advances by means of experiment.  It's our duty to find out.
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All that means is they might be able to offer what columbus got for Nash.  It doesn't mean that Kessel will get what most of us expect him to get.
 
Potvin29 said:
@FortShox 

Per Friedman, expectation is that Bob Murray & the Ducks are gonna go all-in; looking to add a top-4 D w Cody Franson mentioned specifically
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Right now their blueline is:

Fowler-Lovejoy
Lindholm-Beachemin

I'm sure that they would love an improvement over Lovejoy, and Franson would slot in there nicely. According to NHLNumbers they have plenty of cap space too.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Potvin29 said:
@FortShox 

Per Friedman, expectation is that Bob Murray & the Ducks are gonna go all-in; looking to add a top-4 D w Cody Franson mentioned specifically
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Right now their blueline is:

Fowler-Lovejoy
Lindholm-Beachemin

I'm sure that they would love an improvement over Lovejoy, and Franson would slot in there nicely. According to NHLNumbers they have plenty of cap space too.
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Early 3rd rounder and career AHLer outta do it.  ::)
 
I'd do it. It's tough losing another player with no assets coming back, but I wouldn't lose much sleep over it. It obviously wouldn't work though. I can't see any team taking on five more years of Clarkson for a few months and negotiating opportunity with Franson.

Not to mention that much salary in one trade.
 
Bullfrog said:
I'd do it. It's tough losing another player with no assets coming back, but I wouldn't lose much sleep over it. It obviously wouldn't work though. I can't see any team taking on five more years of Clarkson for a few months and negotiating opportunity with Franson.

Not to mention that much salary in one trade.
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Freeing over $5M in cap space is a significant asset to receive in a trade.
 
bustaheims said:
Bullfrog said:
I'd do it. It's tough losing another player with no assets coming back, but I wouldn't lose much sleep over it. It obviously wouldn't work though. I can't see any team taking on five more years of Clarkson for a few months and negotiating opportunity with Franson.

Not to mention that much salary in one trade.
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Freeing over $5M in cap space is a significant asset to receive in a trade.
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Depends on how it is used.
 
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