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Senators scouts rate the team's 2012 draft picks
Here's an insider's look at the seven players chosen by Ottawa over the weekend
By Rob Brodie - OttawaSenators.com
Mission accomplished across the board.
That, in a nutshell, is how general manager Bryan Murray summed up the Ottawa Senators' efforts at the 2012 NHL Draft, which wrapped up Saturday afternoon at the CONSOL Energy Center in Pittsburgh.
"We feel we got a couple of big kids, a couple of quality kids, a couple of goaltenders," said Murray. "I think we filled out our depth chart pretty well. Going in, we wanted to talk about goaltending, we wanted to talk about getting bigger in a couple of areas and adding some talent. We think we?ve done that."
Here's how the Senators' scouts assess the seven players they selected over the last two days at the 2012 NHL Entry Draft at the CONSOL Energy Center in Pittsburgh (rankings are based on NHL Central Scouting's final list):
CODY CECI (first round, 15th overall)
Ottawa 67's, OHL
Position: Defenceman
Height/weight: 6-2 207
Hometown: Ottawa
2011-12 stats: 64 GP, 17 G, 43 A, 60 Pts, 14 PIM
Final ranking: sixth, North American skaters
Scout says: "He's really grown into an effective player, a good man with the puck, a guy that gets to the net, defends with with his stick and has a big body. We feel he has a big upside." ? Bryan Murray, general manager
CHRIS DRIEDGER (third round, 76th overall) Calgary Hitmen, WHL
Position: Goaltender
Height/weight: 6-3, 190
Hometown: Winnipeg
2011-12 stats: 44 GP, 24-12-3, 2.80 GAA, .896 SV%
Final ranking: 13th, North American goaltenders
Scout says: "Probably three or four years away from being a real NHL prospect. He?s got good size, blocks the puck well. He?s got pretty good positioning, works real hard and seems like a good kid. ? George Fargher, amateur scout
JARROD MAIDENS (third round, 82nd overall) Owen Sound Attack, OHL
Position: Left wing/centre
Height/weight: 6-0, 178 pounds
Hometown: Grimsby, Ont.
2011-12 stats: 28 GP, 12 G, 11 A, 23 Pts, 4 PIM
Final ranking: 35th, North American skaters
Scout says: "We projected him as a top-end prospect but with his injury problems and all the woes he had last year, I think he dropped a little bit. We like his upside, his skill and his pro approach to the game. He plays a complete two-way game. Projects as a third-line player with upside to put in some goals." ? Greg Royce, amateur scout
TIMOTHY BOYLE (fourth round, 106th overall) Nobles (Mass.) High School
Position: Defenceman
Height/weight: 6-1, 185 pounds
Hometown: Hingham, Mass.
2011-12 stats: 24 GP, 6 G, 12 A, 18 Pts, 10 PIM
Final ranking: 208th, North American skaters
Scout says: ?He?s going to need time in college. He?s going to Union College. He?s a skill guy, he can skate, he?s got size. It?s just going to be time with him. If he fills out and works hard, we might have something." ? Bob Janecyk, amateur scout
ROBERT BAILLARGEON (fifth round, 136th overall) Indiana Ice (USHL)
Position: Centre
Height/weight: 6-0, 175 pounds
Hometown: Springfield, Mass.
2011-12 stats: 54 GP, 14 G, 34 A, 48 Pts, 36 PIM
Final ranking: 50th, North American skaters
Scout says: "Another college player, probably for the next three or four years down the road. He?s got second-line skill set. Probably going to be a third-line, power-play guy.? ? Bob Janecyk, amateur scout
FRANCOIS BRASSARD (sixth round, 166th overall) Quebec Remparts (QMJHL)
Position: Goaltender
Height/weight: 6-1, 154 pounds
Hometown: Gatineau, Que.
2011-12 stats: 37 GP, 20-10-3, 2.80 GAA, .905 SV%
Final ranking: 15th, North American goaltenders
Scout says: "Francois is a battler. That's who he is. He works hard. He?s a kid who?s very slight. Has a smaller body right now but with our development program, he?ll get bigger and stronger. When somebody like (Remparts coach/GM) Patrick Roy picks you for his team, you have to assume there?s something there." ? Trent Mann, amateur scout
MIKAEL WIKSTRAND (seventh round, 196th overall) Mora (Sweden-2)
Position: Defenceman
Height/weight: 6-1, 183 pounds
Hometown: Karlstad, Sweden
2011-12 stats: 47 GP, 2 G, 1 A, 3 Pts, 14 PIM
Final ranking: 23rd, European skaters
Scout says: "Offensive guy who can skate and play an all-around game. Has a good chance to play on Swedish national team at (2013) world juniors. Solid kid who can move the puck and make plays. Plays with men and has no problem adjusting his game to the next level. Not a (physical) guy. He?s a positional guy who angles people."
Here's an insider's look at the seven players chosen by Ottawa over the weekend
By Rob Brodie - OttawaSenators.com
Mission accomplished across the board.
That, in a nutshell, is how general manager Bryan Murray summed up the Ottawa Senators' efforts at the 2012 NHL Draft, which wrapped up Saturday afternoon at the CONSOL Energy Center in Pittsburgh.
"We feel we got a couple of big kids, a couple of quality kids, a couple of goaltenders," said Murray. "I think we filled out our depth chart pretty well. Going in, we wanted to talk about goaltending, we wanted to talk about getting bigger in a couple of areas and adding some talent. We think we?ve done that."
Here's how the Senators' scouts assess the seven players they selected over the last two days at the 2012 NHL Entry Draft at the CONSOL Energy Center in Pittsburgh (rankings are based on NHL Central Scouting's final list):
CODY CECI (first round, 15th overall)
Ottawa 67's, OHL
Position: Defenceman
Height/weight: 6-2 207
Hometown: Ottawa
2011-12 stats: 64 GP, 17 G, 43 A, 60 Pts, 14 PIM
Final ranking: sixth, North American skaters
Scout says: "He's really grown into an effective player, a good man with the puck, a guy that gets to the net, defends with with his stick and has a big body. We feel he has a big upside." ? Bryan Murray, general manager
CHRIS DRIEDGER (third round, 76th overall) Calgary Hitmen, WHL
Position: Goaltender
Height/weight: 6-3, 190
Hometown: Winnipeg
2011-12 stats: 44 GP, 24-12-3, 2.80 GAA, .896 SV%
Final ranking: 13th, North American goaltenders
Scout says: "Probably three or four years away from being a real NHL prospect. He?s got good size, blocks the puck well. He?s got pretty good positioning, works real hard and seems like a good kid. ? George Fargher, amateur scout
JARROD MAIDENS (third round, 82nd overall) Owen Sound Attack, OHL
Position: Left wing/centre
Height/weight: 6-0, 178 pounds
Hometown: Grimsby, Ont.
2011-12 stats: 28 GP, 12 G, 11 A, 23 Pts, 4 PIM
Final ranking: 35th, North American skaters
Scout says: "We projected him as a top-end prospect but with his injury problems and all the woes he had last year, I think he dropped a little bit. We like his upside, his skill and his pro approach to the game. He plays a complete two-way game. Projects as a third-line player with upside to put in some goals." ? Greg Royce, amateur scout
TIMOTHY BOYLE (fourth round, 106th overall) Nobles (Mass.) High School
Position: Defenceman
Height/weight: 6-1, 185 pounds
Hometown: Hingham, Mass.
2011-12 stats: 24 GP, 6 G, 12 A, 18 Pts, 10 PIM
Final ranking: 208th, North American skaters
Scout says: ?He?s going to need time in college. He?s going to Union College. He?s a skill guy, he can skate, he?s got size. It?s just going to be time with him. If he fills out and works hard, we might have something." ? Bob Janecyk, amateur scout
ROBERT BAILLARGEON (fifth round, 136th overall) Indiana Ice (USHL)
Position: Centre
Height/weight: 6-0, 175 pounds
Hometown: Springfield, Mass.
2011-12 stats: 54 GP, 14 G, 34 A, 48 Pts, 36 PIM
Final ranking: 50th, North American skaters
Scout says: "Another college player, probably for the next three or four years down the road. He?s got second-line skill set. Probably going to be a third-line, power-play guy.? ? Bob Janecyk, amateur scout
FRANCOIS BRASSARD (sixth round, 166th overall) Quebec Remparts (QMJHL)
Position: Goaltender
Height/weight: 6-1, 154 pounds
Hometown: Gatineau, Que.
2011-12 stats: 37 GP, 20-10-3, 2.80 GAA, .905 SV%
Final ranking: 15th, North American goaltenders
Scout says: "Francois is a battler. That's who he is. He works hard. He?s a kid who?s very slight. Has a smaller body right now but with our development program, he?ll get bigger and stronger. When somebody like (Remparts coach/GM) Patrick Roy picks you for his team, you have to assume there?s something there." ? Trent Mann, amateur scout
MIKAEL WIKSTRAND (seventh round, 196th overall) Mora (Sweden-2)
Position: Defenceman
Height/weight: 6-1, 183 pounds
Hometown: Karlstad, Sweden
2011-12 stats: 47 GP, 2 G, 1 A, 3 Pts, 14 PIM
Final ranking: 23rd, European skaters
Scout says: "Offensive guy who can skate and play an all-around game. Has a good chance to play on Swedish national team at (2013) world juniors. Solid kid who can move the puck and make plays. Plays with men and has no problem adjusting his game to the next level. Not a (physical) guy. He?s a positional guy who angles people."
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No Deal for other Michalek
The Senators were interested in reuniting the Michalek brothers this weekend. That is, until they found out what it wouldn?t cost them.
Before he was traded to Phoenix for prospects and a pick, defenceman Zbynek Michalek was the topic of discussion between Senators GM Bryan Murray and Pittsburgh Penguins counterpart Ray Shero.
Murray would have liked nothing more than to put Zbynek on the same team as his brother Milan ? the way Eric and Jordan Staal found themselves on the same side following a Penguins-Carolina Hurricanes trade Friday.
?He told me what the contract was and what he was going to do, and I said, ?That?s great, but unless you take an equal contract back, I can?t do it,? ? Murray told the Sun Saturday. ?So I was never really in it.?
Zbynek makes a bit less than Milan, the Senators? top goal-scoring winger. Zbynek has a deal that will pay him $4 million a season for the next three years.
Murray, you can guess, might have allowed his arm to be twisted if Shero would have wanted to bring Sergei Gonchar back to Pittsburgh.
?We have to find a veteran defenceman before the summer is over, but that?s it,? Murray said of strategy for the blueline going forward. ?There?s no particular name. I?m going to look at the free-agent list on July 1, and if there?s something that appeals to us, we?ll make the call.?
The July 1 date might also start the ball rolling again on talks for Rick Nash, the Columbus sniper who still very much appeals to the Senators.
?I think it?s alive for a lot of teams,? Murray said when asked if he was still in the running for Nash. ?From what I understand, they?re going to wait until July 1, and then they think the market is going to up a little bit after Zach Parise is signed, and then they?ll have more suitors and a bigger deal (and) they might get better assets.
Murray hedged when asked if he?s made Blue Jackets GM Scott Howson his best offer.
?They talked to me about young players they like in the organization, and I said when you?re ready to talk serious and maybe make a deal, we?ll talk,? said Murray. ?I?m not throwing a whole bunch of names out there and letting them pick what they want to pick, by any means. We?ll see when the time comes what happens. They?ve told me they?ll definitely get back to me, to see if there?s interest in our part.?
HEAD GAMES: Senators third-round pick Jarrod Maidens can?t say for sure if he?ll be able to participate in the team?s development camp next week, or even attend rookie camp in September, but he does feel he?s ?close? to recovering from concussion symptoms that have had him sidelined since November. ?With the head, it?s tough, they can?t give you a timeline,? said Maidens. ?They just say you?re your best doctor. Every head is different. All I can do is hope and pray I?ll get back soon. I?m optimistic and confident I will get back to who I am.?
FEEL-GOOD STORY: Ottawa media at the draft kept an eye on section 101, where Francois Brassard sat with his girlfriend and parents waiting to be selected. Brassard?s dad Marc, Le Droit?s sports editor, is a friend we all felt anxious for as he waited out the process. When Francois was selected by the Senators in the sixth round, there were numerous sighs of relief. How happy was Marc? According to Francois (in French), he smiled so wide that he ?showed his teeth under his moustache, which I?ve never seen.?
There?s good reason why Francois, who bears a resemblance to former Senator Antoine Vermette, was called a ?battler? by Senators scout Trent Mann. Since playing the equivalent of house-league hockey in bantam four years ago, he has bounced back from being cut a couple times to find his way to 15th on Central Scouting?s list of North American goalies heading into the draft. Chris Driedger, selected by the Senators in the third round, was 13th.
?When somebody like Patrick Roy picks you on his team, you have to assume there?s something there,? said Mann, referring to the Remparts coach and Hall of Fame goalie. ?He?s going to start next year and get an opportunity to prove what people have been wrong about. He?s been passed over and passed over, and now he?s getting his chance, We?ll give him a chance.?
THE LITTLE BOYLE: Wonder how Timothy Boyle felt watching big brother Brian get pummelled by Matt Carkner in the playoffs? Apparently, he?s not holding a grudge. ?He was happy,? Pierre Dorion, the Senators director of player personnel, said when asked about Boyle?s reaction to being drafted by the Senators in the fourth round. ?I said (to him), ?I hope now we?ve changed you to a Senators fan,? and I don?t want to misquote him, but he said something like, ?I know we had a tough series, New York and Ottawa, but if it was one team that was going to pick me, I?m all right with Ottawa.? ?
THE LITTLE THINGS: The Senators were the only team we saw that had a nameplate ready for the back of each draftee?s jersey. How did they know who they were going to wind up with? Well, they didn?t, but Dorion had a pretty good idea. He estimated the team had between 50-60 nameplates made. ?I know certain guys won?t be there when we pick,? said Dorion. ?We just prepare for it.? And make the players they take feel extra special. ?I was very proud of having my name on the jersey,? said Brassard. ?I was kind of shocked, though.?
The Senators were interested in reuniting the Michalek brothers this weekend. That is, until they found out what it wouldn?t cost them.
Before he was traded to Phoenix for prospects and a pick, defenceman Zbynek Michalek was the topic of discussion between Senators GM Bryan Murray and Pittsburgh Penguins counterpart Ray Shero.
Murray would have liked nothing more than to put Zbynek on the same team as his brother Milan ? the way Eric and Jordan Staal found themselves on the same side following a Penguins-Carolina Hurricanes trade Friday.
?He told me what the contract was and what he was going to do, and I said, ?That?s great, but unless you take an equal contract back, I can?t do it,? ? Murray told the Sun Saturday. ?So I was never really in it.?
Zbynek makes a bit less than Milan, the Senators? top goal-scoring winger. Zbynek has a deal that will pay him $4 million a season for the next three years.
Murray, you can guess, might have allowed his arm to be twisted if Shero would have wanted to bring Sergei Gonchar back to Pittsburgh.
?We have to find a veteran defenceman before the summer is over, but that?s it,? Murray said of strategy for the blueline going forward. ?There?s no particular name. I?m going to look at the free-agent list on July 1, and if there?s something that appeals to us, we?ll make the call.?
The July 1 date might also start the ball rolling again on talks for Rick Nash, the Columbus sniper who still very much appeals to the Senators.
?I think it?s alive for a lot of teams,? Murray said when asked if he was still in the running for Nash. ?From what I understand, they?re going to wait until July 1, and then they think the market is going to up a little bit after Zach Parise is signed, and then they?ll have more suitors and a bigger deal (and) they might get better assets.
Murray hedged when asked if he?s made Blue Jackets GM Scott Howson his best offer.
?They talked to me about young players they like in the organization, and I said when you?re ready to talk serious and maybe make a deal, we?ll talk,? said Murray. ?I?m not throwing a whole bunch of names out there and letting them pick what they want to pick, by any means. We?ll see when the time comes what happens. They?ve told me they?ll definitely get back to me, to see if there?s interest in our part.?
HEAD GAMES: Senators third-round pick Jarrod Maidens can?t say for sure if he?ll be able to participate in the team?s development camp next week, or even attend rookie camp in September, but he does feel he?s ?close? to recovering from concussion symptoms that have had him sidelined since November. ?With the head, it?s tough, they can?t give you a timeline,? said Maidens. ?They just say you?re your best doctor. Every head is different. All I can do is hope and pray I?ll get back soon. I?m optimistic and confident I will get back to who I am.?
FEEL-GOOD STORY: Ottawa media at the draft kept an eye on section 101, where Francois Brassard sat with his girlfriend and parents waiting to be selected. Brassard?s dad Marc, Le Droit?s sports editor, is a friend we all felt anxious for as he waited out the process. When Francois was selected by the Senators in the sixth round, there were numerous sighs of relief. How happy was Marc? According to Francois (in French), he smiled so wide that he ?showed his teeth under his moustache, which I?ve never seen.?
There?s good reason why Francois, who bears a resemblance to former Senator Antoine Vermette, was called a ?battler? by Senators scout Trent Mann. Since playing the equivalent of house-league hockey in bantam four years ago, he has bounced back from being cut a couple times to find his way to 15th on Central Scouting?s list of North American goalies heading into the draft. Chris Driedger, selected by the Senators in the third round, was 13th.
?When somebody like Patrick Roy picks you on his team, you have to assume there?s something there,? said Mann, referring to the Remparts coach and Hall of Fame goalie. ?He?s going to start next year and get an opportunity to prove what people have been wrong about. He?s been passed over and passed over, and now he?s getting his chance, We?ll give him a chance.?
THE LITTLE BOYLE: Wonder how Timothy Boyle felt watching big brother Brian get pummelled by Matt Carkner in the playoffs? Apparently, he?s not holding a grudge. ?He was happy,? Pierre Dorion, the Senators director of player personnel, said when asked about Boyle?s reaction to being drafted by the Senators in the fourth round. ?I said (to him), ?I hope now we?ve changed you to a Senators fan,? and I don?t want to misquote him, but he said something like, ?I know we had a tough series, New York and Ottawa, but if it was one team that was going to pick me, I?m all right with Ottawa.? ?
THE LITTLE THINGS: The Senators were the only team we saw that had a nameplate ready for the back of each draftee?s jersey. How did they know who they were going to wind up with? Well, they didn?t, but Dorion had a pretty good idea. He estimated the team had between 50-60 nameplates made. ?I know certain guys won?t be there when we pick,? said Dorion. ?We just prepare for it.? And make the players they take feel extra special. ?I was very proud of having my name on the jersey,? said Brassard. ?I was kind of shocked, though.?
Sucker Punch
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Madferret said:
Yeah, we've only got $26.5 million in cap space. Thank God we didn't tie that anchor around our neck. And what "equal contract" are we giving back? Gonchar?
WTF Murray?
Madferret
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Sucker Punch said:
Have you taken a look at the list of UFA defensemen? Any thoughts on bringing back Andy Sutton?
Sounds like Borocop is on the team next year with Wiercioch & Gryba bouncing between Ottawa & Bingo - I'm sure Ceci will get a good look too.
I'm not heartbroken about not trading for Michalek - should be able to fill the hole on the blueline on July 1st without losing anybody.
Sucker Punch
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Madferret said:
Yeah, and they all suck.
Other than Suter, Michalek is better than any pending UFA blueliner.
Now we're looking at guys like Sutton, Carle, Wideman, etc. With Kuba leaving and Phillips declining, we need a solid second pairing guy. I think Michalek would have filled that role admirably. Now, we're going to have at least one guy on our second pairing that should really be on our third.
The Red Polar Bear
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Sucker Punch said:
You know, if you're interested in D-men, and have money to spend, we may have this guy that might interest you... You'd have to act fast though, he may be the core piece in adding a goalie.
GhostofPotvin29
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http://www.senatorsextra.com/main/nash-wont-waive-no-trade-for-ottawa-report
Madferret
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Kilrea had some great things to say about Ceci yesterday - compared him to Doughty. I don't know about that but when Killer talks shop you listen.
SP what's your take on this Schultz kid? Tim Murray was saying B Murray / Sens are all over him. He also commented on the Nash situation - "we won't beg Rick to waive to come to Ottawa"
SP what's your take on this Schultz kid? Tim Murray was saying B Murray / Sens are all over him. He also commented on the Nash situation - "we won't beg Rick to waive to come to Ottawa"
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Madferret said:
Cody Ceci circa 2003;
Of course Kilrea's going to talk up one of his own players, but the guy is a legend. Just gives me a little more excitement about him.
Madferret said:
Honestly, don't know a damn thing about him. Tim Murray was quoted as saying they've been in touch with his agent, that he thinks they're down to 5 or 6 teams, and that Ottawa is one of them. Bryan's said that he's looking for a top 4 defenseman, and that Schultz could fill that role. He sounds good from what I've heard, but I'd be reluctant to rely on a guy who's never played an NHL game for 2nd pairing minutes.
Madferret
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Headlines from Sens developmental camp this week...
Corn Flake
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Well. Hopefully someone steps up.
LittleHockeyFan
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Madferret said:
what talk? I couldn't find anything about him.
bustaheims
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Madferret said:
Your jokes are bad and your delivery needs work. It's not a good combination.
Sucker Punch
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Just a heads up, Ferret. I'm a fan of whatever team Carkner signs with.