Reimer Injury
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
There was some of that chatter before in the media and in the forums. But when it comes from the coach, I have to give that a little more weight.
I'm not sure Wilson should have said that to the media because it damages Gustavsson's stock and probably hurts his already fragile confidence. However, this isn't the first time it's come from the team or Wilson as I recall when Wilson was comparing Reimer to Gustavsson.
But now Wilson has said it again, I find that tough to ignore.
Wilson has been really quick to react to how the players are playing this season - even within a game. Hard to fault him because his job is on the line.
We saw a little more evidence of it last night. Tight game goes into a shootout. While they're cleaning the ice, there's Ben by the bench smiling away chatting it up - no pale, strained face freaked out by the tension. In three years, I've rarely seen Gus smile.
I would think the best reaction times for a goalie are accomplished when one is relaxed.
I agree with you that it's hard to be sure when it comes to goalie psychology but I confess after three years of it with Gustavsson that I'm at least leaning towards the notion that there's something to it as the evidence of it's existence mounts.
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Bender said:
Yeah it was a whiny piece and typical of something a media guy would write when they get pushback from a team for doing something a little bit underhanded. His whole "ooooooh but of course they loved it when we wrote about Reimer in the summer and his mom said stuff then" shtick in there was enough for me to stop reading.
... yeah there's a difference between calling a player's mom to find out what he was like as a kid when writing about how he got to where he is vs. calling to get his injury status when the team refuses - like every other NHL team - to disclose in detail exactly how he is doing.
Hey Cox, maybe if you didn't spew drivel about how to run a hockey team then MLSE brass wouldn't spew drivel about how to be a journalist.
Tigger said:Bender said:
Tough part is figuring out what to do with Goose in that case, he needs a home.
Anyone think Burke is feeding the fire a little bit with his comments about the possibility of acquiring a goalie? Denying interest in Turco keeps it warm too...
I think Nabokov might make a lot of sense. Do Nabby and Wilson have a decent relationship from their SJ days?
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Joe S. said:
He's really a Leafs fan. I know it. He knows it. This whole board knows it. The Sens fan inside him is just his dark passenger.
Bender said:
When Burke etc. made the decision to go with Reimer and Goose he was the first one I thought of to be coming up around the 20 game mark should the Leafs need some help. I dunno what the relationship with Wilson is like, if it's any good and the deal is cost effective why not, a one year cap friendly contract for an experienced vet still playing decently, sign me up.
Not entirely sure if/why the Islanders would trade him now though.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
TBH, I don't think there's any reason not to get a cap friendly vet for a good price. I don't think Burke leaves Scrivens and Gus as the starters until Reimer gets back and leave Wilson out to dry. That's a guaranteed set up for failure and for a coach firing.
What would the reason not be? If goaltending can get this team over the hump and be that much more competitive I'm all for it. They probably won't win the cup but I think they can be competitive, and I think some playoff success could do a world of good for such a young team.
Corn Flake said:
link to Brian Burke on Reimer's injury Oct 27th - FAN590 2011
There is ample detail on Reimer's injury in that interview with the Leafs GM. Cox works for that very station and the show that did the interview so it's not like he was unaware of it. Weeks later, the interview is still available online.
Cox's claim:
"That the paranoid Leafs want to hide injury information at all costs is their preferred strategy"
rings a little hollow to me beyond their stated desire to protect their players - that all teams have.
I think Burke is quite forthright in that interview and that interview remains consistent and accurate to this date.
Feschuk's article appears many days later, Nov 9th.
As I also raised in the thread on Wilson, I also do not understand why Cox and his paper has a right to criticize the Leafs and MLSE and how they operate but the Leafs don't have the right to criticize Cox's paper or the media.
If Cox did a little more research on the subject, he'd find out that it is not a one way street. The media is not beyond criticism and never has been.
Some of his examples like Carl Lindros & Colleen Howe worked as player agents for their husband and/or sons.
Yolanda Ballard was pretty darn close to tabloid journalism with someone looking for their 15 minutes of fame and a cut of Harold's estate.
Hardly shining examples.
Hypocritically, many of these same hockey media have criticized sports agents for going after school kids and preying upon unsuspecting common folk who are their parents/guardians but I guess it's ok if they've got a story that will sell their papers. :
Some of the coattails Cox clings to ride upon belonging to "Red Burnett, Milt Dunnell, Jim Proudfoot, ... and Bob McKenzie" are far superior quality than anything Cox ever imagined or could construe in his entire pathetic career. I don't recall such criticism of this nature of any of them because they had more class.
Sports journalism has gone downhill in this town since those men wrote for the Star. Cox is one of the reasons why. He and his paper are as fair game as anyone. And I think the Leafs had a legitimate point in this particular case.