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I was going to say from what I've seen thus far I dont think Kevin Gravel will be an upgrade so what's the point.herman said:Hey oh
We now have $380,350 of LTIR salary room
This should be a roster move, as the cap 'space' is inconsequential at this time.
Sandin was fine against weaker competition, but clearly needed more seasoning after the adrenaline of the first couple of games wore off. That being said, he wasn't the worst D-man of the group so far.
And now Marincin - Holl, as it was always meant to be.
herman said:Hey oh
We now have $380,350 of LTIR salary room
This should be a roster move, as the cap 'space' is inconsequential at this time.
Sandin was fine against weaker competition, but clearly needed more seasoning after the adrenaline of the first couple of games wore off. That being said, he wasn't the worst D-man of the group so far.
And now Marincin - Holl, as it was always meant to be.
herman said:I don't think Kevin Gravel is the point.
herman said:Kevin Gravel, btw, played top shutdown minutes in his handful of games with the Marlies, with heavy PK and end of game close outs (alongside Liljegren). On paper, he is a Martin Marincin clone. 6'4" 200+ lb former Oiler LD playing defensive minutes.
L K said:herman said:Kevin Gravel, btw, played top shutdown minutes in his handful of games with the Marlies, with heavy PK and end of game close outs (alongside Liljegren). On paper, he is a Martin Marincin clone. 6'4" 200+ lb former Oiler LD playing defensive minutes.
Yeah, I saw a little too much Oilers hockey over the last two years. I'm not impressed with his game.
CarltonTheBear said:Don't want to say that I called it but I called it.
CarltonTheBear said:Considering a few things from the past day, I'm starting to suspect that Sandin is here mostly to get his feet wet and that he'll be back on the Marlies once Dermott returns.
1) Marincin, love him or hate him, played the most PK minutes on the team last night. Even if he won't lead the team in that category every single night, it still indicates that Babcock will consider him a big part of that group post-Hainsey/Zaitsev. Tough to potentially lose a guy like that on waivers.
2) Sandin is not playing on any specialty team units, and likely won't at any point of the season. Like we saw last night, that means he won't be playing a ton of minutes considering the top-4 is poised to be leaned on heavily at 5-on-5.
3) Players like Petan and Shore seem to still be very much in contention for a spot on the team even though their cap hits make it much more difficult to keep Sandin on the team once healthy.
herman said:Show your work:
CarltonTheBear said:Considering a few things from the past day, I'm starting to suspect that Sandin is here mostly to get his feet wet and that he'll be back on the Marlies once Dermott returns.
1) Marincin, love him or hate him, played the most PK minutes on the team last night. Even if he won't lead the team in that category every single night, it still indicates that Babcock will consider him a big part of that group post-Hainsey/Zaitsev. Tough to potentially lose a guy like that on waivers.
2) Sandin is not playing on any specialty team units, and likely won't at any point of the season. Like we saw last night, that means he won't be playing a ton of minutes considering the top-4 is poised to be leaned on heavily at 5-on-5.
3) Players like Petan and Shore seem to still be very much in contention for a spot on the team even though their cap hits make it much more difficult to keep Sandin on the team once healthy.
L K said:herman said:Kevin Gravel, btw, played top shutdown minutes in his handful of games with the Marlies, with heavy PK and end of game close outs (alongside Liljegren). On paper, he is a Martin Marincin clone. 6'4" 200+ lb former Oiler LD playing defensive minutes.
Yeah, I saw a little too much Oilers hockey over the last two years. I'm not impressed with his game.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Sandin deserves to be on the roster more than Ceci. This is a consequence of a Dubas decision that hurts the team.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Sandin deserves to be on the roster more than Ceci. This is a consequence of a Dubas decision that hurts the team.
CarltonTheBear said:L K said:herman said:Kevin Gravel, btw, played top shutdown minutes in his handful of games with the Marlies, with heavy PK and end of game close outs (alongside Liljegren). On paper, he is a Martin Marincin clone. 6'4" 200+ lb former Oiler LD playing defensive minutes.
Yeah, I saw a little too much Oilers hockey over the last two years. I'm not impressed with his game.
He only played for them last season, and only suited up for 36 games. But in those limited games/minutes his metrics (shot attempts against, goals against, expected goals against) were better than most of the other Oilers defencemen. But regardless the Leafs likely have 4 games left before Dermott returns and we already know that Marincin-Holl will be suiting up together for one of those games tomorrow. I doubt we actually see Gravel in the line-up.
Plus, I mean at least it wasn't Harpur right?