Frank E
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leafsjunkie said:AvroArrow said:leafsjunkie said:can't pass at highway speeds.
Really? Last time you drove a Toyota, did you turn it on? I have more than enough pep to pass at highway speeds in my cheap corolla.
I owned a civic Si for 10 years before my ms3, I think you would agree a Civic Si is faster and has more power than a corolla.... I would have to gear down to 4th and rev the crap out of it to pass people with any kind of gusto, in 5th gear at 120km/hr you can't just push the gas and get to a reasonable speed to pass unless you want to pass very slowly. Those vehicles typically have around 120hp @ 6000rpm or greater. My GF has a accent sport with 110hp, which I would imagine is close to a corolla's power and no, you can't pass safely or quickly at highway speeds, it takes 10 seconds to hammer the gas and get the momentum going.
My vehicle, 6 speed manual. I hit the gas and your head hits the head rest, it also gets great gas milage. I get 400 - 600km per tank of gas, depending on highway/city driving and the amount of time I spend in turbo boost (my vehicle has guages that keep track of how many litres/km and my vehicles avg is 9.6L/100km since I got it). I driven from Markham to Montreal in the past and still didn't use my whole tank.
So to have 275hp, 300ft lbs tq, good gas milage, cheap Insurance (only pay just over $100/month), lots of cargo space, good resale value and pay a little more then your basic vehicle and a lot less than STi or Evo (which are alot worse on gas and Insurance cost) and have that kind of performance, I dunno, seems like a win/win to me. I know for a fact that cars like a stang or EVO or STi, from a dig will beat my vehicle in the 1/4 mile, but on a road track or from a rolling start, the MS3 catches and passes those vehicles. I've seen it. Both the EVO and STi are 5 speeds, not 6 speed, they don't have the top end.
Again, to each their own, but personally I could never own a Toyota or Honda (again). Not enough power. And Toyota is not that cheap, by the time you get a corolla nicely equipped I bet you are in the lower to mid twenties at least, even more if you want the 's' package. I got my car for $24,900 (yes I got an awesome deal) and will run cicles around the 's', not even a challenge.
Just so that you guys know, this guy doesn't know shit.
And for those of you that think fuel consumption has anything to do with the size of your tank...take a science class.