The Official Complaint Thread!

[GhostofPotvin29]

Quite frankly, I think they're right. It's not the kids choice. Why should those 10-15 kids feel left out and shunned by their peers because their parents choose to have different beliefs?

Because nanny state sissies.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Quite frankly, I think they're right. It's not the kids choice. Why should those 10-15 kids feel left out and shunned by their peers because their parents choose to have different beliefs?

Because nanny state sissies.

I'm not even 100% sure what that means.

 

[TML fan]

Quite frankly, I think they're right. It's not the kids choice. Why should those 10-15 kids feel left out and shunned by their peers because their parents choose to have different beliefs?

I had a choice when I was growing up. The school is denying that choice to these kids. It's wrong.

 

[Bullfrog]

It's not wrong. You and your kids are free to dress up and go out trick or treating for Halloween or to celebrate it any way you want, just not at school.

 

[TimKerr]

Quite frankly, I think they're right. It's not the kids choice. Why should those 10-15 kids feel left out and shunned by their peers because their parents choose to have different beliefs?

Not to state the obvious, but why should the other 500 kids miss out on Halloween and the costume parade?

My kid's school does Halloween and the costume parade and the kids who don't want to participate don't. Just like the kids who are Jehovah's Witness who don't stand for the anthem or have birthday parties.
My boys don't make fun of them they just know they do things their own way.

 

[Kin]

Not to state the obvious, but why should the other 500 kids miss out on Halloween and the costume parade?

I think they'll live.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Quite frankly, I think they're right. It's not the kids choice. Why should those 10-15 kids feel left out and shunned by their peers because their parents choose to have different beliefs?

I had a choice when I was growing up. The school is denying that choice to these kids. It's wrong.

You had a choice....The other kids don't. They're told the Can't participate. By their parents(either because of their beliefs or their sheer lack of motivation to go out and get their kids a costume).

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Quite frankly, I think they're right. It's not the kids choice. Why should those 10-15 kids feel left out and shunned by their peers because their parents choose to have different beliefs?

Not to state the obvious, but why should the other 500 kids miss out on Halloween and the costume parade?

My kid's school does Halloween and the costume parade and the kids who don't want to participate don't. Just like the kids who are Jehovah's Witness who don't stand for the anthem or have birthday parties.
My boys don't make fun of them they just know they do things their own way.

That's awesome that you raised your kids right....But not to state the obvious, but kids are cruel and not all kids are raised to be respectful of other people's beliefs. If their parents are beligerent, there kids will be.

As for the National Anthem, you're talking about 2 completely different things here.

 

[TML fan]

It's not wrong. You and your kids are free to dress up and go out trick or treating for Halloween or to celebrate it any way you want, just not at school.

"Because you can't" isn't a reason.

 

[TML fan]

Quite frankly, I think they're right. It's not the kids choice. Why should those 10-15 kids feel left out and shunned by their peers because their parents choose to have different beliefs?

I had a choice when I was growing up. The school is denying that choice to these kids. It's wrong.

You had a choice....The other kids don't. They're told the Can't participate. By their parents(either because of their beliefs or their sheer lack of motivation to go out and get their kids a costume).

And? Why should everyone else pay the price?

 

[TML fan]

Quite frankly, I think they're right. It's not the kids choice. Why should those 10-15 kids feel left out and shunned by their peers because their parents choose to have different beliefs?

Not to state the obvious, but why should the other 500 kids miss out on Halloween and the costume parade?

My kid's school does Halloween and the costume parade and the kids who don't want to participate don't. Just like the kids who are Jehovah's Witness who don't stand for the anthem or have birthday parties.
My boys don't make fun of them they just know they do things their own way.

That's awesome that you raised your kids right....But not to state the obvious, but kids are cruel and not all kids are raised to be respectful of other people's beliefs. If their parents are beligerent, there kids will be.

Maybe the schools should educate children about their ignorant behaviour instead of just copping out.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Quite frankly, I think they're right. It's not the kids choice. Why should those 10-15 kids feel left out and shunned by their peers because their parents choose to have different beliefs?

I had a choice when I was growing up. The school is denying that choice to these kids. It's wrong.

You had a choice....The other kids don't. They're told the Can't participate. By their parents(either because of their beliefs or their sheer lack of motivation to go out and get their kids a costume).

And? Why should everyone else pay the price?

Because that's the society we live in. We are not a melting pot. We are a society that accepts and allows people to practice their beliefs.

I don't necessarily agree with all of the things society has chosen we shouldn't do but my kids getting dressed up for Halloween at school or not isn't one of them.

Call me a softie, but I don't like seeing any kids get left out. Whether that's from playing hockey, learning to read, or being able to do the same activities other kids do at school. The 500 kids that don't get to dress up for that one silly day are not hurt by it. Why should they get to dress up if it hurts the other 50 kids.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Quite frankly, I think they're right. It's not the kids choice. Why should those 10-15 kids feel left out and shunned by their peers because their parents choose to have different beliefs?

Not to state the obvious, but why should the other 500 kids miss out on Halloween and the costume parade?

My kid's school does Halloween and the costume parade and the kids who don't want to participate don't. Just like the kids who are Jehovah's Witness who don't stand for the anthem or have birthday parties.
My boys don't make fun of them they just know they do things their own way.

That's awesome that you raised your kids right....But not to state the obvious, but kids are cruel and not all kids are raised to be respectful of other people's beliefs. If their parents are beligerent, there kids will be.

Maybe the schools should educate children about their ignorant behaviour instead of just copping out.

Wow, I'm going to guess you don't have children.

1)The schools can only do so much.

2)Behaviour of children is not a school's problem. It is a parenting problem. School's deal with enough BS from unfit parents that having their kids dress up for halloween or not is one they'd just rather choose to avoid.

Did you know that their are 4 and 5 year olds in schools that are still not toilet trained? Did you know that their are kids that will destroy classrooms, hit teachers, hurt other children just for not getting what they want? This is not an issue of the school teaching them rights from wrongs. This is an issue(most times) of parents who should of never had children.

Why would a school want to bring in one more thing that could possibly seperate one kid from another?

 

[Bender]

Quite frankly, I think they're right. It's not the kids choice. Why should those 10-15 kids feel left out and shunned by their peers because their parents choose to have different beliefs?

I had a choice when I was growing up. The school is denying that choice to these kids. It's wrong.

You had a choice....The other kids don't. They're told the Can't participate. By their parents(either because of their beliefs or their sheer lack of motivation to go out and get their kids a costume).

And? Why should everyone else pay the price?

Because that's the society we live in. We are not a melting pot. We are a society that accepts and allows people to practice their beliefs.

I don't necessarily agree with all of the things society has chosen we shouldn't do but my kids getting dressed up for Halloween at school or not isn't one of them.

Call me a softie, but I don't like seeing any kids get left out. Whether that's from playing hockey, learning to read, or being able to do the same activities other kids do at school. The 500 kids that don't get to dress up for that one silly day are not hurt by it. Why should they get to dress up if it hurts the other 50 kids.

All I've gotta say to that is boohoo. I grew up going to a Catholic school and even they had the good sense to allow kids to celebrate it if they chose to.

If some kids get picked on then some kids get picked on. I was picked on sometimes in an ALL CATHOLIC school where we're all supposed to be the SAME. I also picked on a few others myself! A special day wasn't needed and kids who didn't dress up didn't get especially ridiculed. It did happen sometimes, the kid who dressed up as a girl was made fun of for a few hours but we were still his friend! It's part of growing up and it happens sometimes. I also went to a 90% Italian high school. Italians made fun of other Italians - and most of them were from Calabria for crying out loud! If you want to get rid of children picking on other children in its entirety then everyone should be home schooled. If you ask me I have no idea how these kids are going to handle the outside world by being coddled until eighteen (and then some!).

If a kid is picked on it usually goes far beyond simple "I don't do this," at least this is my experience growing up.

 

[Leafaholic99]

All I've gotta say to that is boohoo. I grew up going to a Catholic school and even they had the good sense to allow kids to celebrate it if they chose to.

If some kids get picked on then some kids get picked on. I was picked on sometimes in an ALL CATHOLIC school where we're all supposed to be the SAME. I also picked on a few others myself! A special day wasn't needed and kids who didn't dress up didn't get especially ridiculed. It did happen sometimes, the kid who dressed up as a girl was made fun of for a few hours but we were still his friend! It's part of growing up and it happens sometimes. I also went to a 90% Italian high school. Italians made fun of other Italians - and most of them were from Calabria for crying out loud! If you want to get rid of children picking on other children in its entirety then everyone should be home schooled. If you ask me I have no idea how these kids are going to handle the outside world by being coddled until eighteen (and then some!).

If a kid is picked on it usually goes far beyond simple "I don't do this," at least this is my experience growing up.

Totally agree with you on this, the way everyone is babied until they are out of high school doesn't do much good to prepare them for the real world at all.

 

[Bullfrog]

It's not wrong. You and your kids are free to dress up and go out trick or treating for Halloween or to celebrate it any way you want, just not at school.

"Because you can't" isn't a reason.

uh, ok? I suppose you're suggesting that there needs to be a reason why our schools should indulge in a tradition of dressing up in costumes and giving out candy instead of, say, teaching?

Personally, I don't really get why it's such a big deal from either point of view. In truth, I bet most people who "celebrate" halloween (and I use that word loosely) do not do it for any religious reasons and therefore they should be allowed to do it at school.

 

[moon111]

If I'm a pagan, wouldn't our celebration of Halloween (including wearing costumes) be part of our religious beliefs?  If my kids can't wear a costume, then other kids shouldn't be allowed to wear any of their religious or ethnic stuff either.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

If I'm a pagan, wouldn't our celebration of Halloween (including wearing costumes) be part of our religious beliefs?  If my kids can't wear a costume, then other kids shouldn't be allowed to wear any of their religious or ethnic stuff either.

Might be a silly question. Do you know any practicing pagans that celebrate Halloween as it was traditionally?



I'm kind of with Bullfrog really. I could care less one way or another. I suppose that's partly because kids dressing up or not dressing up doesn't effect me. I mean, I have 2 kids in grade school, but neither really care either way.

I do agree that society and children in general are babied too much and that's not necessarily my point. Actually, my original point was why they do it. I can see their point of view in this instance.

I have more of an issue with the 'participant' award at ever child sporting event. The everyone is a winner mentality to me does more harm than a kid not getting to wear his halloween costume.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Well this escalated quickly.

 

[maplesyrup]

I don't mind participant ribbons for kids in athletics. Even for adults I think it's cool. Not sure if any of you have ever entered a race but it's customary for all runners to receive a medal or some token at the finish line - even hacks like me got one and I have to say it was appreciated. Now, I'm bright enough to recognize the difference between being awarded for participating vs. placing in the podium. - I like to think my kids are bright enough too.