The Official Guitar Thread

[Madferret]

Gold top Les Paul...I think that's the one he got from Joe Walsh.
Yeah Jimmy can still rip.

 

[Tigger]

That's from 'It Might Get Loud'. Always thought Jimmy was a great studio guy but a little sloppy live, though that was part of his charm too I suppose.

 

[maplesyrup]

I can't play... Wish I could... Anyway, I thought this was really cool... You guitar guys might get a kick out of this... thought I'd share.

http://www.alancross.ca/a-journal-of-musical-things/2011/12/16/has-randy-bachman-solved-a-decades-old-guitar-mystery.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+alancross+%28AlanCross.ca%29

 

[Madferret]

That's from 'It Might Get Loud'. Always thought Jimmy was a great studio guy but a little sloppy live, though that was part of his charm too I suppose.

It's sloppy yeah but he can still make you feel it.

 

[Tigger]

That's from 'It Might Get Loud'. Always thought Jimmy was a great studio guy but a little sloppy live, though that was part of his charm too I suppose.

It's sloppy yeah but he can still make you feel it.

For sure, best I can say is he's a 'wabi sabi' guy live, great vibe, yadda yadda...

 

[Madferret]

That's from 'It Might Get Loud'. Always thought Jimmy was a great studio guy but a little sloppy live, though that was part of his charm too I suppose.

It's sloppy yeah but he can still make you feel it.

For sure, best I can say is he's a 'wabi sabi' guy live, great vibe, yadda yadda...

A great set of hands and an even better ear. Another reason it sounds a bit sloppy is because the pregnant pauses sound kind of awkward without the other instruments filling the holes. His rhythm chops were always kind of call and response-ive...

 

[Bender]

That's from 'It Might Get Loud'. Always thought Jimmy was a great studio guy but a little sloppy live, though that was part of his charm too I suppose.

I don't know if I would call him the best technical guitarist tbh. But at the same time, I always viewed "best technical" title as clinical and sanitized. Like Michael Angelo Batio or something, I always hated that. I'm all for technicality but it's also about playing with some soul.

 

[Tigger]

Yeah that Michael Angelo guy reminds of screeching violins, just harsh, never really cared for it. Guys like Steve Vai and Yngwie Malmsteen had some tone going for them if a bit 'weedily wee' at times.

Something I try to keep in mind with Page is the circumstances in the recording studio back then, it wasn't like today or even 10 years ago, multi tracking and editing was an art form and studio guys had to be able to play if they wanted to eat. Page was all that and then some.

For me it's tunes like Bron-Yr-Aur that bring his ability in terms of precision to the fore.

 

[Big Daddy]

Is the Rocksmith for PS3 game appropriate for a beginner?

 

[WalterSobchak]

Is the Rocksmith for PS3 game appropriate for a beginner?

I am a beginner so I would say yes!  8)

 

[Bender]

Is the Rocksmith for PS3 game appropriate for a beginner?

I am a beginner so I would say yes!  8)

Man, I'm just tired of playing tabs and things like that. I want to take lessons in order to be better with playing in general. I feel like I've hit a wall to some extent, that I have a very limited bag of tricks so to speak.

 

[Madferret]

Is the Rocksmith for PS3 game appropriate for a beginner?

I am a beginner so I would say yes!  8)

Man, I'm just tired of playing tabs and things like that. I want to take lessons in order to be better with playing in general. I feel like I've hit a wall to some extent, that I have a very limited bag of tricks so to speak.

Bender have you learned the 7 modes yet?

 

[Bender]

Is the Rocksmith for PS3 game appropriate for a beginner?

I am a beginner so I would say yes!  8)

Man, I'm just tired of playing tabs and things like that. I want to take lessons in order to be better with playing in general. I feel like I've hit a wall to some extent, that I have a very limited bag of tricks so to speak.

Bender have you learned the 7 modes yet?

I have not! The issue with me is I have a hard time with theory - it's all gobbledegook musical jargon. I play mostly through tabs and by ear if I'm writing original music. If you can help me find a place where it breaks it all down in simple terms that would be great.

 

[Madferret]

Is the Rocksmith for PS3 game appropriate for a beginner?

I am a beginner so I would say yes!  8)

Man, I'm just tired of playing tabs and things like that. I want to take lessons in order to be better with playing in general. I feel like I've hit a wall to some extent, that I have a very limited bag of tricks so to speak.

Bender have you learned the 7 modes yet?

I have not! The issue with me is I have a hard time with theory - it's all gobbledegook musical jargon. I play mostly through tabs and by ear if I'm writing original music. If you can help me find a place where it breaks it all down in simple terms that would be great.

Hmm...it's not as intimidating as it looks but I suppose that all depends on your comfort level. How long have you been playing for? Are you up to snuff on your pents and what have you?

Not sure if you're clear on this but you don't actually learn all 7 modes at the same time. If you were a jazz guy / looking to push your jazz chops I'd recommend the Dorian mode, if you like the bluesy rock and are bored with the blues scale etc then check out the Mixolydian mode...I know it doesn't sound fun learning the mechanics of new scales but learning some theory, especially the modes, will really help you get over said wall. Gotta push yourself dude!

 

[Bender]

Is the Rocksmith for PS3 game appropriate for a beginner?

I am a beginner so I would say yes!  8)

Man, I'm just tired of playing tabs and things like that. I want to take lessons in order to be better with playing in general. I feel like I've hit a wall to some extent, that I have a very limited bag of tricks so to speak.

Bender have you learned the 7 modes yet?

I have not! The issue with me is I have a hard time with theory - it's all gobbledegook musical jargon. I play mostly through tabs and by ear if I'm writing original music. If you can help me find a place where it breaks it all down in simple terms that would be great.

Hmm...it's not as intimidating as it looks but I suppose that all depends on your comfort level. How long have you been playing for? Are you up to snuff on your pents and what have you?

Not sure if you're clear on this but you don't actually learn all 7 modes at the same time. If you were a jazz guy / looking to push your jazz chops I'd recommend the Dorian mode, if you like the bluesy rock and are bored with the blues scale etc then check out the Mixolydian mode...I know it doesn't sound fun learning the mechanics of new scales but learning some theory, especially the modes, will really help you get over said wall. Gotta push yourself dude!

I think I've become to comfortable playing rhythm and learning new chord patterns and whatnot. I'm sure it'd be a lot easier to build chords knowing more scales and how they work, but I have a horrific memory for learning the fretboard. I can remember chords and how they fit but for the life of me remembering the fretboard is difficult.

I'm not really into too much jazz, but those scales do sound pretty interesting. I've heard OF the modes before but I didn't look into it very deeply. Locrian, Mixolydian etc.

To be honest I think I just need some guidance and someone telling me "Learn this! Get back to me when you do." But I don't want to pay for an instructor

 

[Madferret]

Is the Rocksmith for PS3 game appropriate for a beginner?

I am a beginner so I would say yes!  8)

Man, I'm just tired of playing tabs and things like that. I want to take lessons in order to be better with playing in general. I feel like I've hit a wall to some extent, that I have a very limited bag of tricks so to speak.

Bender have you learned the 7 modes yet?

I have not! The issue with me is I have a hard time with theory - it's all gobbledegook musical jargon. I play mostly through tabs and by ear if I'm writing original music. If you can help me find a place where it breaks it all down in simple terms that would be great.

Hmm...it's not as intimidating as it looks but I suppose that all depends on your comfort level. How long have you been playing for? Are you up to snuff on your pents and what have you?

Not sure if you're clear on this but you don't actually learn all 7 modes at the same time. If you were a jazz guy / looking to push your jazz chops I'd recommend the Dorian mode, if you like the bluesy rock and are bored with the blues scale etc then check out the Mixolydian mode...I know it doesn't sound fun learning the mechanics of new scales but learning some theory, especially the modes, will really help you get over said wall. Gotta push yourself dude!

I think I've become to comfortable playing rhythm and learning new chord patterns and whatnot. I'm sure it'd be a lot easier to build chords knowing more scales and how they work, but I have a horrific memory for learning the fretboard. I can remember chords and how they fit but for the life of me remembering the fretboard is difficult.

I'm not really into too much jazz, but those scales do sound pretty interesting. I've heard OF the modes before but I didn't look into it very deeply. Locrian, Mixolydian etc.

To be honest I think I just need some guidance and someone telling me "Learn this! Get back to me when you do." But I don't want to pay for an instructor

Learn how to play in mixolydian and get back to me when you do.

PS - I've never spent a $ on lessons...everything you need / want to know is available in many mediums and for free

 

[Bender]

Is the Rocksmith for PS3 game appropriate for a beginner?

I am a beginner so I would say yes!  8)

Man, I'm just tired of playing tabs and things like that. I want to take lessons in order to be better with playing in general. I feel like I've hit a wall to some extent, that I have a very limited bag of tricks so to speak.

Bender have you learned the 7 modes yet?

I have not! The issue with me is I have a hard time with theory - it's all gobbledegook musical jargon. I play mostly through tabs and by ear if I'm writing original music. If you can help me find a place where it breaks it all down in simple terms that would be great.

Hmm...it's not as intimidating as it looks but I suppose that all depends on your comfort level. How long have you been playing for? Are you up to snuff on your pents and what have you?

Not sure if you're clear on this but you don't actually learn all 7 modes at the same time. If you were a jazz guy / looking to push your jazz chops I'd recommend the Dorian mode, if you like the bluesy rock and are bored with the blues scale etc then check out the Mixolydian mode...I know it doesn't sound fun learning the mechanics of new scales but learning some theory, especially the modes, will really help you get over said wall. Gotta push yourself dude!

I think I've become to comfortable playing rhythm and learning new chord patterns and whatnot. I'm sure it'd be a lot easier to build chords knowing more scales and how they work, but I have a horrific memory for learning the fretboard. I can remember chords and how they fit but for the life of me remembering the fretboard is difficult.

I'm not really into too much jazz, but those scales do sound pretty interesting. I've heard OF the modes before but I didn't look into it very deeply. Locrian, Mixolydian etc.

To be honest I think I just need some guidance and someone telling me "Learn this! Get back to me when you do." But I don't want to pay for an instructor

Learn how to play in mixolydian and get back to me when you do.

PS - I've never spent a $ on lessons...everything you need / want to know is available in many mediums and for free

Yeah, I know what you mean. I guess I just haven't found something that really made me feel comfortable learning it all on my own. I mean I'm reading some of this mode stuff thinking to myself "what the hell am I reading?"

http://www.theorylessons.com/modes004ionian2.php

This seems to help a bit. Do you have any other recommended resources?

 

[Madferret]

Yeah, I know what you mean. I guess I just haven't found something that really made me feel comfortable learning it all on my own. I mean I'm reading some of this mode stuff thinking to myself "what the hell am I reading?"

http://www.theorylessons.com/modes004ionian2.php

This seems to help a bit. Do you have any other recommended resources?

http://drjohnmtbc.wordpress.com/2010/05/21/musical-resources-for-the-improvising-music-therapist-mixolydian-mode-for-guitar/

That's as good a starting point as any. Really man just google 'mixolydian scales', check out the libraries, etc. Everybody's learning curve is different but if you start reading about you'll eventually find someone who speaks your language.

Check up stuff on the circle of fifths, find / print off the scale patterns and practise playing the scale shape. Start by incorporating something small out of it that makes sense to you into your playing regime.

 

[Tigger]

Bender, do you know how to play a major scale? That's the 'Ionian' mode of the 7 modes, it's easy to figure without notation, start on any note and play from there... tone tone semitone tone tone tone semitone. ( a tone being two frets a semitone being one fret )

Try that on one string going up and down then try finding those notes across the strings using two to three notes per string. Start with one octave to keep it simple. After that the rest of the modes will start to make a lot more sense, fwiw.

 

[Bender]

Bender, do you know how to play a major scale? That's the 'Ionian' mode of the 7 modes, it's easy to figure without notation, start on any note and play from there... tone tone semitone tone tone tone semitone. ( a tone being two frets a semitone being one fret )

Try that on one string going up and down then try finding those notes across the strings using two to three notes per string. Start with one octave to keep it simple. After that the rest of the modes will start to make a lot more sense, fwiw.

I know major/minor penta and major scale. I'll be looking to put the others together. I'm thinking just going through youtube videos. I'm a visual learner.