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The Official Movie Thread

Also, I highly recommend The Nice Guys. Legitimately funny, the right amount of stupid. Sad it couldn't be a 13 hour miniseries.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Also, I highly recommend The Nice Guys. Legitimately funny, the right amount of stupid. Sad it couldn't be a 13 hour miniseries.

Easily one of my favourite movies of the year.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Is tone really the issue. The Dark Knight was plenty, well, dark and gritty and it was as good a super hero movie as has been made.

It seems to me that the problem with the movies they've been putting out is that they're just not good.

They haven't been good, but, I do think tone has been part of that problem. When you're dealing with established characters, the tone needs to reflect who that character is. Dark and gritty works well for Batman, because, well, that's Batman. It doesn't work for Superman, or the Justice League as a whole. That's something that Marvel seems to understand to some degree, but DC hasn't, yet.
 
bustaheims said:
They haven't been good, but, I do think tone has been part of that problem. When you're dealing with established characters, the tone needs to reflect who that character is. Dark and gritty works well for Batman, because, well, that's Batman. It doesn't work for Superman, or the Justice League as a whole. That's something that Marvel seems to understand to some degree, but DC hasn't, yet.

Admittedly I'm less familiar with DC comics than I am Marvel and so I don't entirely know how a thing like Suicide Squad should be tonally to be faithful to stuff but just personally I'm relatively familiar with Superman on a grand scale and, sure, if I'd come out of the Superman movie thinking "That was really good but too grim" I'd probably like it less than if they'd nailed it tonally too but still the lousy Marvel movies did alright tone wise, they just weren't well put together flicks.

I guess the Iron Man and Avengers sequels did decent business which is a studio consideration but just for me some sort of allegiance to any one book's tone(considering just about any comic has had incarnations of various tones) seems like a minor deal compared with just making a decent movie.
 
Nik the Trik said:
bustaheims said:
They haven't been good, but, I do think tone has been part of that problem. When you're dealing with established characters, the tone needs to reflect who that character is. Dark and gritty works well for Batman, because, well, that's Batman. It doesn't work for Superman, or the Justice League as a whole. That's something that Marvel seems to understand to some degree, but DC hasn't, yet.

Admittedly I'm less familiar with DC comics than I am Marvel and so I don't entirely know how a thing like Suicide Squad should be tonally to be faithful to stuff but just personally I'm relatively familiar with Superman on a grand scale and, sure, if I'd come out of the Superman movie thinking "That was really good but too grim" I'd probably like it less than if they'd nailed it tonally too but still the lousy Marvel movies did alright tone wise, they just weren't well put together flicks.

I guess the Iron Man and Avengers sequels did decent business which is a studio consideration but just for me some sort of allegiance to any one book's tone(considering just about any comic has had incarnations of various tones) seems like a minor deal compared with just making a decent movie.

The tone of Batman vs. Superman didn't bother me.  It's the fact that they tried to do too many stories in one movie.  That disjointedness is what caused it's problems in my opinion.  All they had to do was stay true to the original plot line.  Batman doesn't trust Superman.  This is the reason he is going to take him down.  Man vs. god battle ensues, and at some point you figure out a way to have Batman and Superman reconcile, that doesn't involve a poorly played Lex Luthor. 

I've said it before and I will say it again.  Lex Luthor is a cold, calculating, sociopath that only cares about world domination.  He is in some ways the moral mirror opposite of Batman.  He is not a wealthier version of the Joker.  All the director had to do was look at Eisenberg and say "You know what you did in Social Network?  Do that again" and not "You know Heath Ledger did an awesome Joker right?"

At it's core though, Batman vs. Superman was probably a bad direction to go for a lead in to the Justice League movie.  Simply because at the end of the day, there isn't a case where Superman *needs* Batman, so there isn't a threat that they can create, where Batman doesn't feel somewhat superfluous.
 
herman said:
If you want a good DC movie, hit up their animated stuff. They get it right.

It's weird, because, they definitely get the animated stuff right, and their TV shows are also usually very much on the mark. It's just, outside of the Nolan Batman movies, their recent releases have all missed the mark (though, they're getting closer than they were with Green Lantern).
 
bustaheims said:
herman said:
If you want a good DC movie, hit up their animated stuff. They get it right.

It's weird, because, they definitely get the animated stuff right, and their TV shows are also usually very much on the mark. It's just, outside of the Nolan Batman movies, their recent releases have all missed the mark (though, they're getting closer than they were with Green Lantern).

Their cinematic operation has been, as all eyeball evidence has since confirmed, largely tone-deaf; perhaps more of a cacophony of executive meddling than true tone-deafness, but that is the result of backing the wrong horse in Synder (set-piece > story > character, which is the exact opposite of what it should be). DC live action movies generally have had no heart to speak of.

Where they have succeeded, in my opinion, is casting.
 
Power Rangers update for the two people who might have nostalgia for this:

Bill Hader has been cast as Alpha-5, along side Elizabeth Banks as Rita and Bryan Cranston as Zordon. Wut is happening?
Zords teased in latest posters. They look like... bicycle helmets.
 
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-C4qqsgs8w[/youtube]

So they've gone with a Breakfast Club meets Chronicle take (and a bit Sam Raimi Spiderman with bestowed intrinsic abilities).

Edit: A YouTube commenter beat me to the same assessment by an hour.
 
This isn't new, but I don't remember seeing it here
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5PYZR30sG4[/youtube]


 
The director doing Thor 3 has a couple of must-watch movies under his belt: Hunt for the Wilderpeople (2016) and Boy (2010).
 
CarltonTheBear said:
The director doing Thor 3 has a couple of must-watch movies under his belt: Hunt for the Wilderpeople (2016) and Boy (2010).

Also What We Do in the Shadows, a vampire documentary.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv568AzZ-i8[/youtube]
 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Nik the Trik said:
I don't know if this is technically a movie or TV but via Crave TV I was able to watch the 5 part ESPN documentary about OJ Simpson. It's really, really good. I was only 12 when the trial was going on so I didn't entirely grasp it at the time and the look back was pretty great.

Incredibly it sort of leaves you without any real doubt that he did it while at the same time understanding completely why he wasn't convicted.

It was amazing, I viewed it as one big documentary spliced into five parts. I was in the same boat as you regarding being younger at the time and I remember the trial, but not a lot of the cultural things that had been going on in LA at that time.

Just finished watching it. Really good indeed. There's no doubt he's guilty.

I'll admit, I felt strange about the sentencing for his armed robbery convictions. It was very clearly unjust sentencing for the crime, but on the other hand, the bastard deserved something for what he's done.

I feel so badly for the Brown and Goldman family's. They got caught up in a racial issue and were denied justice partially because of it. Johnny Cochran was despicable.
 
herman said:
I saw Arrival yesterday. It was quite a (hopeful) mind bender. Very well done.
Its on the top of my list but have traveled to AZ again. Looks like it is a mindful film. Last one I saw was Hacksaw Ridge, right before Remeberance Day, what those men (and women) went through is beyond belief.
 
herman said:
I saw Arrival yesterday. It was quite a (hopeful) mind bender. Very well done.
Herman, I agree, just saw it a few days back and I am still trying to sort it all out. the synopsis at Wikipedia helped a great deal, but there is so much going on in that film that I want to see it again and soon.
 

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