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The Unofficial Fire Ron Wilson/Ron Wilson is the Greatest Thread

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Tigger said:
Taken with a pretty big grain of salt but if the Leafs won the cup you wouldn't support Wilson?
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There is no telling what I would do if that happened (probably a lot of things I'd end up regretting later on!)
Seriously - I really have just never liked him and if he did coach them to a cup I would probably stubbornly minimize his role in it.......turning into a crusty old man.......
 
Scot4bz said:
Tigger said:
Taken with a pretty big grain of salt but if the Leafs won the cup you wouldn't support Wilson?
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There is no telling what I would do if that happened (probably a lot of things I'd end up regretting later on!)
Seriously - I really have just never liked him and if he did coach them to a cup I would probably stubbornly minimize his role in it.......turning into a crusty old man.......
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Hey, I'll take stubbornly minimize, sometimes I stubbornly maximize in his defense and I'm far from his biggest fan. There are aspects of overall responsibility during his tenure that I think his presence tends to overshadow which for us isn't a ringing endorsement but for others may be useful and managed purposefully.

I've said it before, the Leafs could do far far worse. We talk about how the Leafs had a good record for quite a while ( what a hat rack ) with decent to good goaltending but it also means that Wilson directed his team somewhat adequately with good goaltending not to mention a pretty young and wormy team. If I'm Burke one of the columns on the chart has to be 'coach', as in, 'who do I have as coach during our best years'. It won't be Wilson, the Leafs are 2-3 years away from really contending, best case.
 
I agree - we could do worse (and there have been a few examples over the years). It's a tough spot to be in coaching a team near the bottom AND in Toronto. (not to mention people like me chasing him with a pitch fork!)
 
Scot4bz said:
I agree - we could do worse (and there have been a few examples over the years). It's a tough spot to be in coaching a team near the bottom AND in Toronto. (not to mention people like me chasing him with a pitch fork!)
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:) I think the pressure is good for Burke and hopefully us.

If Reimer plays well but the Leafs lose Wilson will probably earn ire more readily/justifiably, if he doesn't start squeezing points this year it will be his last, hopefully Burke can get a pk forward and maybe an easter egg in good time to help him out or do what he did last year, let him sink or swim with the same kind of philosophy behind his moves, either way, along with whatever James can provide.

No matter what I don't think Wilsons existence as bench boss is the most pressing issue for the Leafs, long term.
 
I've called for Wilson's firing since last year and I won't flip flop because of some late season heroics by our goalie. 

These late season pushes are becoming a Leafs tradition, so they don't mean much.
 
I think Pat Burns might of gotten this team in the playoffs at the cost of developing the system Burke/Wilson believe they need.  So long term, maybe Wilson isn't so bad?  He's way more patient then I am.  Although I'm prone to think pulling Bozak off the first line and putting some 3rd liner who'd do anything for the chance there instead might work.
 
nutman said:
i want to see what he can do with a full season of this team.
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If he's tanking by the end of November I think he needs to go. My leash is short if I'm Burke........but I'm not, so just my 2 cents.  ;)
 
Mot the Barber said:
I've called for Wilson's firing since last year and I won't flip flop because of some late season heroics by our goalie. 

These late season pushes are becoming a Leafs tradition, so they don't mean much.
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Ah but if you listen to Burke we had the "4th" (?) best record in the East/NHL/??? since the All Star break/Christmas/???
 
Glad to see Wilson is already in mid-season form, talking about cutting through the BS and getting down to the real roster.  That's because he's got about a 4-week leash.
 
Corn Flake said:
nutman said:
i want to see what he can do with a full season of this team.
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I would like to see what he can do with reliable goaltending right out of the gate, onward.
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I want to see him throw Nazem under the bus again, so we can christen this new site with vile hate for Ron Wilson.
 
BlueWhiteBlood said:
Corn Flake said:
nutman said:
i want to see what he can do with a full season of this team.
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I would like to see what he can do with reliable goaltending right out of the gate, onward.
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I want to see him throw Nazem under the bus again, so we can christen this new site with vile hate for Ron Wilson.
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I sense an "Under the bus" drinking game coming. Every time its mentioned here, drink!
 
Corn Flake said:
nutman said:
i want to see what he can do with a full season of this team.
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I would like to see what he can do with reliable goaltending right out of the gate, onward. 
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Good article.  Looks like Wilson & staff are intent on forging an "identity" for the team, as well as for themselves, to translate it into something positive, on ice.....

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/assistant-coaches-look-blend-leafs-staff-help-team-222234615.html

TORONTO - The seeds started being planted at Ron Wilson's off-season home in South Carolina.
That's where the Toronto Maple Leafs coaching staff gathered for a couple days last month to not only try and chart a way back to the playoffs for the team, but also to get to know one another.

The changes made behind the Leafs bench could end up being almost as important as any personnel move made by general manager Brian Burke over the summer. In explaining the rationale for replacing Tim Hunter and Keith Acton, Burke said he thought the coaching staff had grown "stale."

Gordon and Cronin each bring a wealth of experience to the position ? at every level from NCAA to the AHL and NHL ? but expect it to take some time to carve out their own niche alongside Rob Zettler, the lone holdover assistant.

At least in the beginning, all aspects of the game will be handled by committee. The staff will grow and evolve together.

One of the major discussion points the coaches kept coming back to during their retreat at Wilson's house was the importance of having a team with an identity ? something everyone will be working towards as the regular season draws closer.
"I think the identity's going to evolve over the next month or two," said Cronin. "That's what we were trying to gather from that meeting down in South Carolina: 'What are we right now? Where do we want to go with this group? And what can we do as a staff to assist in that development?'"


 
The Pranksters, starring Ron Wilson & Brian Burke......

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/41763-Kennedy-Brian-BurkeRon-Wilsons-prank-war.html


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..... decades-long prank war Burke and Wilson have waged against each other......

The first great story in the friendly rivalry harkens back to those Providence College days. The Friars were playing a tournament over the Christmas holidays, so the whole team stayed in the same dorm at school. Providence is a Catholic school and though Burke is part of that denomination, Wilson is not. Burke led a contingent to Midnight Mass on Christmas Eve and while he was gone, Wilson broke into his room and changed the alarm clock.

To Burke?s credit, he was only five minutes late for practice the next morning, but late is late. Lamoriello?s punishment was for Burke to have an extra on-ice workout at 4 a.m. ? under the coach?s personal supervision.

?We thought it would be a one-day punishment,? Wilson said. ?But it ended up lasting six or seven days.?

When the Friars did two-a-days, Burke would be on the ice three times ? the third always coming at four in the morning.

?He didn?t know it was me who changed his clock,? Wilson said. ?But he should have known.?

Wilson waited until the two were out of college before he eventually fessed up.
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...Wilson came into Burke?s office, he asked his former college roommate if he had any coffee. Burke quickly obliged, ducking out down the hall to grab some for his pal.

?I don?t know why I would ever leave Ronnie alone in my office for two minutes,? Burke said.

After the two chatted, Wilson excused himself and Burke quickly realized his dress shoes had about a one-inch layer of shampoo in them.




 
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