The Unofficial Fire Ron Wilson/Ron Wilson is the Greatest Thread

[Scot4bz]

Too soon?

Too late?

 

[ZBBM]

Too soon?

* smiles *

Not to complain about the PP, which is less than 10%.  New assistants -- others having gone "stale" -- same results.  Personnel is very different from when he began.  There is just one common denominator left.

 

[jdh1]

Too soon?

1st loss of the season and this thread comes up....This is going to be a long season for Wilson.

 

[Bender]

Too soon?

* smiles *

Not to complain about the PP, which is less than 10%.  New assistants -- others having gone "stale" -- same results.  Personnel is very different from when he began.  There is just one common denominator left.

Our players really aren't that good?

 

[Optimus Reimer]

I think the players are decent enough that the team should be competing for a playoff spot and be in the playoffs this season.  But there are two problems:  the Leafs PP and the Leafs willingness to play pond hockey. 

Game 1:  The Canadiens were snake bitten a bit.  They should have had at least 3 or 4 goals if it was not for some bad luck for them. 

Game 2:  Leafs trail the Flames by 2 in the first 7 minutes of the game and had to play hard to pull out the win.

Game 3:  Leafs nearly blew a big lead against the sens.

Game 4:  Leafs fell behind to the Avalanche and had to play hard to tie it.  In the process, there were considerable goof ups in their defensive zone that if Colorado had capitalized on, would have easily won the game.

Unless the PP improves and Wilson gets the team to improve their breakouts, I don't expect the Leafs to make the playoffs, and so far under Wilson, the Leafs have been horrible in their defensive end and on the PP.

And watch now.  Other teams who saw the Leafs play last night will realize the way to beat the Leafs is to forecheck hard and keep them boxed in their own end.
 

 

[4th Liner]

7 out of a possible 8 points? Pffft!

They lost, Fire Wilson!

 

[Tigger]

And watch now.  Other teams who saw the Leafs play last night will realize the way to beat the Leafs is to forecheck hard and keep them boxed in their own end.

That's like a Bechamel or Veloute hockey sauce, it applies to pretty much every team.

The PP isn't clicking, that's obvious right now but the pk has improved. If the Leafs can manage to really improve the pk over the long haul I'm honestly not nearly as worried about the PP. It would be nice to see both improve and I think in time they will but with decent es scoring and a top 12-ish pk I think they have a shot at the playoffs.

 

[Tigger]

My guess is the Leafs keep things interesting enough for him to last the season, but he won't be back for 12/13.

For me it hinges entirely on making the playoffs. If they do, he's extended, if not he's gone ( that could happen earlier too if they're in the toilet in the standings ).

Who might be a good option to replace him though? I don't really know, just asking.

 

[Corn Flake]

My guess is the Leafs keep things interesting enough for him to last the season, but he won't be back for 12/13.

For me it hinges entirely on making the playoffs. If they do, he's extended, if not he's gone ( that could happen earlier too if they're in the toilet in the standings ).

Who might be a good option to replace him though? I don't really know, just asking.

The guy standing beside him on the bench will get his job.  Scott Gordon.

 

[Tigger]

My guess is the Leafs keep things interesting enough for him to last the season, but he won't be back for 12/13.

For me it hinges entirely on making the playoffs. If they do, he's extended, if not he's gone ( that could happen earlier too if they're in the toilet in the standings ).

Who might be a good option to replace him though? I don't really know, just asking.

The guy standing beside him on the bench will get his job.  Scott Gordon.

Interim or full on?

 

[Corn Flake]

My guess is the Leafs keep things interesting enough for him to last the season, but he won't be back for 12/13.

For me it hinges entirely on making the playoffs. If they do, he's extended, if not he's gone ( that could happen earlier too if they're in the toilet in the standings ).

Who might be a good option to replace him though? I don't really know, just asking.

The guy standing beside him on the bench will get his job.  Scott Gordon.

Interim or full on?

Probably the interim tag first if it's a mid-season thing but full on after that.

 

[Tigger]

Probably the interim tag first if it's a mid-season thing but full on after that.

You seem pretty confident about that, I don't know Gordon well enough to say, why do you think that's the case?

 

[Corn Flake]

Probably the interim tag first if it's a mid-season thing but full on after that.

You seem pretty confident about that, I don't know Gordon well enough to say, why do you think that's the case?

Mostly because of the team USA connection, and that a lot of the talk about him from his peers was that he is quite highly regarded.  I just think the Burke connection is quite strong, including that I think he was effectively shoved under Wilson's nose this off-season in kind of a "hire this guy or I will hire him for you" kind of way (the sense I got from Burke and Wilson when it happened).

 

[Tigger]

Probably the interim tag first if it's a mid-season thing but full on after that.

You seem pretty confident about that, I don't know Gordon well enough to say, why do you think that's the case?

Mostly because of the team USA connection, and that a lot of the talk about him from his peers was that he is quite highly regarded.  I just think the Burke connection is quite strong, including that I think he was effectively shoved under Wilson's nose this off-season in kind of a "hire this guy or I will hire him for you" kind of way (the sense I got from Burke and Wilson when it happened).

Interesting. No matter what I'd imagine a list of possible candidates would be short and if Burke liked what he saw enough already to accept him as an assistant coach then it's not much of a stretch. Maybe Eakins moves up to assistant at some point?

 

[Corn Flake]

Probably the interim tag first if it's a mid-season thing but full on after that.

You seem pretty confident about that, I don't know Gordon well enough to say, why do you think that's the case?

Mostly because of the team USA connection, and that a lot of the talk about him from his peers was that he is quite highly regarded.  I just think the Burke connection is quite strong, including that I think he was effectively shoved under Wilson's nose this off-season in kind of a "hire this guy or I will hire him for you" kind of way (the sense I got from Burke and Wilson when it happened).

Interesting. No matter what I'd imagine a list of possible candidates would be short and if Burke liked what he saw enough already to accept him as an assistant coach then it's not much of a stretch. Maybe Eakins moves up to assistant at some point?

Yeah short for sure. Burke I imagine would pretty much have a candidate or two in mind and would go right after them vs. doing the big search thing.  Basically that is how he tagged Carlyle. 

Yeah Eakins I could see coming on board as an assistant at some point although he seems to be invaluable at the development level. A good cop kind of assistant for sure.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

I think that if Wilson gets canned, that Eakins is the guy I'd want there from the beginning. I mean, I'm sure that Gordan and Cronin are good coaches and all, but I've heard so many great things from people about Eakins role, that I think he's the right guy for that job.

Mostly, every player that has played for him down there raves about him and says how much he's helped them learn the game and prepared them for the NHL, that I don't know how you can't make him the new coach. Just my two cents.

 

[Bender]

I think the players are decent enough that the team should be competing for a playoff spot and be in the playoffs this season.  But there are two problems:  the Leafs PP and the Leafs willingness to play pond hockey. 

Game 1:  The Canadiens were snake bitten a bit.  They should have had at least 3 or 4 goals if it was not for some bad luck for them. 

Game 2:  Leafs trail the Flames by 2 in the first 7 minutes of the game and had to play hard to pull out the win.

Game 3:  Leafs nearly blew a big lead against the sens.

Game 4:  Leafs fell behind to the Avalanche and had to play hard to tie it.  In the process, there were considerable goof ups in their defensive zone that if Colorado had capitalized on, would have easily won the game.

Unless the PP improves and Wilson gets the team to improve their breakouts, I don't expect the Leafs to make the playoffs, and so far under Wilson, the Leafs have been horrible in their defensive end and on the PP.

And watch now.  Other teams who saw the Leafs play last night will realize the way to beat the Leafs is to forecheck hard and keep them boxed in their own end.

Anyone watching the first four games of baseball would probably conclude that the Yankees won't make the post-season based solely on play.

 

[ZBBM]

I think that if Wilson gets canned, that Eakins is the guy I'd want there from the beginning. I mean, I'm sure that Gordan and Cronin are good coaches and all, but I've heard so many great things from people about Eakins role, that I think he's the right guy for that job.

Mostly, every player that has played for him down there raves about him and says how much he's helped them learn the game and prepared them for the NHL, that I don't know how you can't make him the new coach. Just my two cents.

Me too.  I can't think of anyone better offhand.  Give the guy a shot.

 

[Fanatic]

I think the players are decent enough that the team should be competing for a playoff spot and be in the playoffs this season. 

I am going to have to object to your name.

 

[Tigger]

Fight!